I still gotta side with Marlon on this one...cleaning ladies WILL cause CRC
errors.  This is networking 101 Bob, I'm disappointed in you...<sigh>

Best,


Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

Its on a commercial rooftop on both sides.  Ladies from the cleaning 
union don't go up there.  The cabinets are locked. The rooftops are 
alarmed and on CCTV on both sides. And it was a crappy day so nobody was 
out there sunning themselves. And it hasn't happened since.

:-)

I figured it out with further prodding of the network people.  Seems the 
port is throwing a crapload of CRC errors but only intermittently.

Sooo....  we will go back and look at the fiber, swap out patch cables, 
swap out the GBIC and last but not least swap out the radio.

Thanks for  everyones input.

-B-




Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Perhaps this is a case of vandalism?  Especially since it only happened 
> during the time when people would be in the building.
>
> Or maybe the "cleaning lady" bumped something?
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Moldashel" <lakel...@gbcx.net>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
>
>
>   
>> No
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>     
>>> That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices.
Did
>>> any of you show up during the outage?  (I assume yes but have to
ask....)
>>>
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Bob Moldashel" <lakel...@gbcx.net>
>>> To: <fai...@snappydsl.net>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> To All,
>>>>
>>>> OK  Its a fiber interface.  The system has been working fine.
>>>>
>>>> Configuration is this:
>>>>
>>>> 2960 <--- fiber ---> Gig Radio <---- 60ghz ----> Gig Radio
>>>> <---fiber----> 2960
>>>>
>>>> The interface went down twice in the same day. The radio never went
>>>> down. the fiber tests fine and no one has screwed with it. They are
>>>> short runs. This is a new deployment that has been up for about 6
weeks.
>>>> Fiber is all multimode 62.5 mm. It has not been intermittent. It just
>>>> went down hard twice one day and has been fine since. And when it went
>>>> down it went down at 8:15 am and came back up at 2pm then went back
down
>>>> at 2pm and came back up at 4:30 and has been fine since.  Both sites
are
>>>> rooftop locations and it was raining the day the event happened so no
>>>> one was working in the vacinity of the equipment. And it has rained on
>>>> and off here for the past 3 weeks with no issues otherwise so I am
>>>> ruling out weather. The radio link never goes down. Ever. So its not
>>>> rain taking out the 60 Ghz. hop.
>>>>
>>>> OK   Teaching moment...  :-)
>>>>
>>>> For those of you that are not aware most Gigabit radios when they loose
>>>> their RF link shut down their gig ports on both sides to indicate a
hard
>>>> failure. This obviously expedites things like OSPF and such for 
>>>> rerouting.
>>>>
>>>> Just really weird....
>>>>
>>>> -B-
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>> This shows the port simply going up and down. And noting more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a Fiber Port ? Or Copper ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If copper, then the wire needs to be tested, (no loose connector,
right
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of cable, cat6, and the cable not exceeding 300ft,etc.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is fiber then, check the fiber, clean the fiber, check the
>>>>> SFP/GBIC,
>>>>> clear them, reseat them, confirm that you are using right cable
(single
>>>>> mode
>>>>> or MultiMode) and the SFP/GBIC's Match, and depending on the length of
>>>>> cable, make sure your light levels are good, there is no kink in cable
>>>>> etc)
>>>>> Don't mix MultiMode cables with Single Mode Cables Connectors..
>>>>>
>>>>> TIP, fiber cables / SFP/GBIC, you can test each side by doing a 
>>>>> LoopBack
>>>>> on
>>>>> the Far end... To do a loopback in fiber world, you just have to find
a
>>>>> way
>>>>> to connect the two ends of the fiber cable together.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, you may want to setup the devices on both side to be 
>>>>> Fixed
>>>>> 1000FDX rather than Auto negotiate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> SnappyDSL.net
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>>>>> Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:14 AM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT Question....
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the
network
>>>>> guy.
>>>>> But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link.
:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> What does this tell everybody???   Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on 
>>>>> Interface
>>>>> GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 08:12:19.455 EST:
>>>>> %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down 
>>>>> Oct
>>>>> 27
>>>>> 13:52:16.606 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, 
>>>>> changed
>>>>> state to up Oct 27 13:52:18.661 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line
protocol
>>>>> on
>>>>> Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 14:15:10.273
>>>>> EST:
>>>>> %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21,
>>>>> changed
>>>>> state to down Oct 27 14:15:11.314 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface
>>>>> GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 16:26:29.667 EST:
>>>>> %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know the gig port is going up and down but does it tell you anything
>>>>> else?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tnx.
>>>>>
>>>>> -B-
>>>>>
>>>>> -B-
>>>>>
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