Been there   Done that.

Had a power supply under a desk running a system once.  We thought the 
customer was shutting it off every couple of weekends.  Turned out to be 
cleaning people pushing the vacuum under the desk would hit the on/off 
switch. Turned the power supply to the side......No more problems.

:-)

-B-


Brad Belton wrote:
> I still gotta side with Marlon on this one...cleaning ladies WILL cause CRC
> errors.  This is networking 101 Bob, I'm disappointed in you...<sigh>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:43 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
>
> Its on a commercial rooftop on both sides.  Ladies from the cleaning 
> union don't go up there.  The cabinets are locked. The rooftops are 
> alarmed and on CCTV on both sides. And it was a crappy day so nobody was 
> out there sunning themselves. And it hasn't happened since.
>
> :-)
>
> I figured it out with further prodding of the network people.  Seems the 
> port is throwing a crapload of CRC errors but only intermittently.
>
> Sooo....  we will go back and look at the fiber, swap out patch cables, 
> swap out the GBIC and last but not least swap out the radio.
>
> Thanks for  everyones input.
>
> -B-
>
>
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>   
>> Perhaps this is a case of vandalism?  Especially since it only happened 
>> during the time when people would be in the building.
>>
>> Or maybe the "cleaning lady" bumped something?
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bob Moldashel" <[email protected]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> No
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices.
>>>>         
> Did
>   
>>>> any of you show up during the outage?  (I assume yes but have to
>>>>         
> ask....)
>   
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Bob Moldashel" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>; "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:55 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> To All,
>>>>>
>>>>> OK  Its a fiber interface.  The system has been working fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Configuration is this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2960 <--- fiber ---> Gig Radio <---- 60ghz ----> Gig Radio
>>>>> <---fiber----> 2960
>>>>>
>>>>> The interface went down twice in the same day. The radio never went
>>>>> down. the fiber tests fine and no one has screwed with it. They are
>>>>> short runs. This is a new deployment that has been up for about 6
>>>>>           
> weeks.
>   
>>>>> Fiber is all multimode 62.5 mm. It has not been intermittent. It just
>>>>> went down hard twice one day and has been fine since. And when it went
>>>>> down it went down at 8:15 am and came back up at 2pm then went back
>>>>>           
> down
>   
>>>>> at 2pm and came back up at 4:30 and has been fine since.  Both sites
>>>>>           
> are
>   
>>>>> rooftop locations and it was raining the day the event happened so no
>>>>> one was working in the vacinity of the equipment. And it has rained on
>>>>> and off here for the past 3 weeks with no issues otherwise so I am
>>>>> ruling out weather. The radio link never goes down. Ever. So its not
>>>>> rain taking out the 60 Ghz. hop.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK   Teaching moment...  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you that are not aware most Gigabit radios when they loose
>>>>> their RF link shut down their gig ports on both sides to indicate a
>>>>>           
> hard
>   
>>>>> failure. This obviously expedites things like OSPF and such for 
>>>>> rerouting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just really weird....
>>>>>
>>>>> -B-
>>>>>
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>> This shows the port simply going up and down. And noting more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this a Fiber Port ? Or Copper ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If copper, then the wire needs to be tested, (no loose connector,
>>>>>>             
> right
>   
>>>>>> kind
>>>>>> of cable, cat6, and the cable not exceeding 300ft,etc.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it is fiber then, check the fiber, clean the fiber, check the
>>>>>> SFP/GBIC,
>>>>>> clear them, reseat them, confirm that you are using right cable
>>>>>>             
> (single
>   
>>>>>> mode
>>>>>> or MultiMode) and the SFP/GBIC's Match, and depending on the length of
>>>>>> cable, make sure your light levels are good, there is no kink in cable
>>>>>> etc)
>>>>>> Don't mix MultiMode cables with Single Mode Cables Connectors..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIP, fiber cables / SFP/GBIC, you can test each side by doing a 
>>>>>> LoopBack
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the Far end... To do a loopback in fiber world, you just have to find
>>>>>>             
> a
>   
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> to connect the two ends of the fiber cable together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, you may want to setup the devices on both side to be 
>>>>>> Fixed
>>>>>> 1000FDX rather than Auto negotiate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> SnappyDSL.net
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>             
> On
>   
>>>>>> Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:14 AM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT Question....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the
>>>>>>             
> network
>   
>>>>>> guy.
>>>>>> But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link.
>>>>>>             
> :-)
>   
>>>>>> What does this tell everybody???   Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on 
>>>>>> Interface
>>>>>> GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 08:12:19.455 EST:
>>>>>> %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down 
>>>>>> Oct
>>>>>> 27
>>>>>> 13:52:16.606 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, 
>>>>>> changed
>>>>>> state to up Oct 27 13:52:18.661 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line
>>>>>>             
> protocol
>   
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 14:15:10.273
>>>>>> EST:
>>>>>> %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21,
>>>>>> changed
>>>>>> state to down Oct 27 14:15:11.314 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface
>>>>>> GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 16:26:29.667 EST:
>>>>>> %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know the gig port is going up and down but does it tell you anything
>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tnx.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -B-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -B-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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