Yeah.

People all too often forget that eirp is a RECEIVE number not a TRANSMIT 
number.  All it takes is big, big ears and you can hear the other end from a 
very long ways away.  Makes for much less noise in the area too.

I hate the trend toward high power radios with low power antennas.

You guys do realize that 2.4, 900 and 5.8 gig bands limit you to a 6 (that's 
S-I-X) dB antenna if you use a 1 watt (30 dB) radio?  Base station 
especially.  For CPE you can use higher gain cpe antennas on 5 gig and still 
be OK within the rules.

But all of these stupid, noisy, wasteful, cpe systems with 1 watt radios and 
19dB panels make a mess of your networks.  (and mine)

marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions


> 30 dB EIRP with a 44 DBi antenna on each side over 73 miles produces -75 
> signal.  I'll let him say what he did to make it work, but it's certainly 
> possible.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
>
> From: Bret Clark
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:02 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
>
>
> Man...what is the EIRP on these links that people are posting high bit 
> rates? As someone else stated, gotta wonder if the FCC won't start getting 
> suspicious at some point.
>
> Travis Johnson wrote:
>  73 miles... and I get 28Mbps total (14Mbps each direction) using a 20mhz 
> channel.
>
>  Travis
>
>
>  Josh Luthman wrote:
> Travis is getting 28 megs on a really long backhaul - like 58 miles?
>
> You will not see >30.
>
> On 10/31/09, Eric Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
>  Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and others.  We currently
> have a Mikrotik backhaul between each of our towers using NStreme and we
> have been extremely happy with the performance.  We recently upgraded a
> tower because we were hitting 15M or so during peak times and was afraid
> it couldn't handle much more.  We upgraded that backhaul to a Motorola
> PTP for future capacity.
>
>
>
> The questions:
>
>
>
> MT Gurus:
>
> Each backhaul ranges in distance, each ranges from 3 miles (3 backhauls)
> and the rest are about 12 miles (5 backhauls).  Since we have been using
> Mikrotik, I have reliably seen up to 10 Meg, and I am afraid 15 Meg is
> pushing the envelope on a 20 MHz channel.
>
>
>
> How much capacity can I reliably push on a 20 MHz channel using NStreme?
>
>
>
> Other Gurus:
>
> I understand the following are loaded questions, but budget is around
> $1000-3000 range and the capacity needs to be around the 60Meg mark (30
> each way or without a defined 1:1 guarantee, capability to flex and be
> able to push 30M each way).
>
>
>
> If I start upgrading to larger backhauls on busy links, what type of
> equipment should I look at?
>
> What can support VoIP?
>
> Anything that GPS times for frequency reuse?
>
> Anything work in the 5.4GHz range at a 12 mile distance?
>
>
>
> Eric Rogers
>
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
>
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
>
>
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