LOL! I'm melting, I'm melting!!! On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Robert West <[email protected]>wrote:
> Black Magic? That was my theory for awhile but I have a Coven of Witches > around me at all times (actually my wife and her sisters) and they haven't > brought me any good fortune whatsoever, in fact it's had the opposite > effect. Maybe I'm using the wrong witches...... How do you advertise for > a > "Wireless Witch"? > > Now my mind is working.... If one is "Wireless Witching", can you do that > like "Water Witching" with a dowsing rod? I wonder if some good ol' boy > could use a dowsing rod to find the correct RF path........ I'll have to > put > that in my bag of "weird things to say to the customer". > > "Yeah, I'll have my uncle Dale come over with his dowsing rod and see if > you > can get the service." > > I once worked with a guy who, after hearing the term "RF Glasses" take a > pair of the orange tint hunting glasses and with a sharpie marker drew site > lines on each lens and would use them to mess with customers. > > Off topic but what the heck. I'm tired. > > Bob- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz ch save the day - was - Frustrating > connectivity issues. > > I guess the the black magic part was that you couldnt ping yet remain on > remote desktop? > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I have been putting up a few horizontal sectors with 10 MHz channels > > too. That 3 dB increase in signal to noise has made a world of > difference. > > > > I even put one up high, running a 5 MHz channel, and call it my > > "trouble sector." I have a handful of customers I used knife edge > > diffraction as a propagation medium from day one. It works 95% of > > the time at 20 MHz channels, with fades to -83 -84 dBm. This time of > > year is the 5% they begin to fade. My theory is that as the crops > > dry (corn, beans) they are no longer lined up in neat little rows but > > become more randomized and change the dynamics of the signal. > > > > I moved 3 of them to my "trouble sector" and they are working > > great; I know from experience this is the bottom of the barrel, and > > they will get steadily better as leaves drop and crops are > > combined. I'm also convinced horizontal polarization works better > > with knife edge diffraction than vertical. > > > > My trouble sector is even on a fully deployed tower with 3) 120 > > degree sectors at 2.4, all vertical. Trouble sector is 20 feet below > > the main ones, horizontal, using a subset of the same channel of the > > one directly behind it. That 5 MHz sector gives me a 6 dB increase in > s/n. > > > > Steve, how did you change all the customers over to 10 MHz? I guess > > I could do that in the middle of the night and open a bunch of > > windows and change them, then begin saving one after the other. Let > > us know your trick. > > > > Just adds to my belief that this wireless stuff is 80% engineering, > > 15% black magic, and since I don't believe in luck, 5% good fortune or > > Karma. > > > > Mike > > > > > > At 07:03 AM 11/5/2009, you wrote: > > >Mark I have seen this exact same thing. But I bet if you take the > > >radio down the road 1/2 mile it will go away and never cause a > > >problem. When I had the same issue I ended up putting a Mikrotik > > >client in place with the same XR2 board and firmware as the > > >tower. That way I had the ability to do Mtik to Mtik testing and it > > >came down to a multipath or RF issue. I went from hearing from the > > >customer every 4 days to ever month. Then 2 months ago I switched > > >that sector to 10Mhz G and have not heard a word from that customer > > >since. I like no phone calls. 10mhz channels have been saving my life. > > > > > >Steve Barnes > > >Manager > > >PCS-WIN > > >RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > > >Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through > > >experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, > > >vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. > > >- Helen Keller > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > >On Behalf Of Mark McElvy > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:23 PM > > >To: WISPA General List > > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues. > > > > > >CPQ in router mode and doing the PPPoE, no router behind CPQ. > > > > > >Mark McElvy > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > >Behalf Of Eric Rogers > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:02 PM > > >To: WISPA General List > > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues. > > > > > >Further, are you using a router (Linksys/D-Link/Netgear/Other) with > > >PPPoE, or the computer with PPPoE, or even DHCP? > > > > > >Eric > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > >Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:33 PM > > >To: Mikrotik discussions > > >Cc: WISPA General List > > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues. > > > > > > >The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. > > > > > >Are you sure it's functional? I expect it probably isn't usable while > > >the > > >pings stop just like browsing isn't capable. > > > > > >What are you pinging from/to? > > > > > >Do you have the Tranzeo fix applied to your CPEs as you're using a > > >Mikrotik > > >AP? Is the Tranzeo rebooting per their interpretation of the RFC? Is > > >the > > >wireless registration staying up according to the AP? > > > > > >Josh Luthman > > >Office: 937-552-2340 > > >Direct: 937-552-2343 > > >1100 Wayne St > > >Suite 1337 > > >Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > >improbable, must be the truth." > > >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > > > >On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Mark McElvy <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Recently I posted an issue with a new customer that had a great > signal > > > > but poor throughput. A lot of people sais multipath. Well now I have > > > > more data and another customer seeing the same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. If you get connected to an RDP session it stays connected. > > > > > > > > 2. If you do a constant ping, you get responses for a while, > you > > > > won't get responses for a while. > > > > > > > > 3. While the pings respond, you can web browse fast. > > > > > > > > 4. While the pings don't respond, you get page cannot be > > > > displayed. > > > > > > > > 5. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and > > > > functional. > > > > > > > > 6. Customer says the online game they play will take several > > > > attempts to connect but once connected it works great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone else suggested power but tried different power supplies with > > > > same result. 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