Rick, Do you provide 100mbps service to consumer level connections via wireless links?
If I can get 4-12mbits down a cat3 or telco wire for a home user then then I'll probably go for it. ;) Ryan On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:06 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps. > My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do > 100Mbps+ > on cat 3? Not according to this: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If > such an > animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked. > We may be in game of semantics here. Can you get 100Mbps? I suppose > a short > cable on the bench might do it but not in the field reliably. In my > experience, in order to get a reliable connection over cat 3, I had > to lock > down the switch ports to 10Mbps. I would never claim to know it all > but I've > been around the block a time or two. The windings are to cancel out > EMF > which can cause errors that affect speed due to transmission > retries. The > speed capability of a cable is due to the quality of its wire rating - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable and > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable > Obviously, by utilizing more that 2 pair, you can do some interesting > things. > -RickG > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Robert West <[email protected] > >wrote: > >> Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and >> receive. Can >> easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much >> effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems >> come from >> the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has >> made. Most >> phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run. Who >> knows >> where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if >> they stick >> with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure. If it was >> the best >> option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on >> its face. >> >> There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone >> lines in the >> home and you could also use the phones with the things connected. >> That was >> in the late 1990's, early 2000. Some Gateway desktops came with >> them. I >> never saw them used though. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >> [email protected]] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 >> >> That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except >> references >> to the standard being 10Mbps: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable >> Any examples? >> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old >>> barbwire! >>> >>> -Kevin >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> 100Mbps on cat 3? 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