Yeah, I'd have to get quite a few more customers to pay for such a thing.  I
can certainly see the value in it but value versus food......  Uh.... I
gotta eat.

Someday, though.  Someday..........



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

As they say, you get what you pay for. For normal stuff, especially close
range, you can use a variety of software packages. But for a high dollar
tower, you want someone with the expertise and the software to give you
reliable results. -RickG

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Robert West
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Me = Cheap
>
> RadioMobile = Free
>
> Wispmon = Yikes!
>
> It better be good but I think I'd need a few thousand customers before I
> didn't feel that price.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Brad Belton
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:38 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>
> A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path
> profile tool built-in.  The person that is developing the product is a
long
> time wireless operator, so he has a very good feel for what our industry
> needs.
>
> www.wispmon.com
>
> I've been a RadioMobile user for years now, but have found myself using
the
> path profiler in wispmon more often than RadioMobile.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Brian Webster
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:21 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>
> $75 using 10 meter terrain data and 30 meter resolution tree clutter.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> 607-643-4055 Voice
> 607-435-3988 Mobile
> 208-692-1898 Fax
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > THANKS to EVERYONE for their input. I'll let you know what I decide.
> > Another
> > question: Normally I do my path analysis with Delorme but I'm not
feeling
> > that is good enough considering the cost of the project and some trees I
> > see
> > in the distance. Is anyone out there offering path analysis for a fair
> > rate?
> > -RickG
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Rick:
> > >
> > > You have been getting some good advice here.  I am not a networking
> > > guru and have never played one on TV, but do know a thing or two about
> > RF.
> > >
> > > It seems with your physical layout you may have an opportunity for
> > > some space diversity.  A simple link will probably serve you with 3
> > > nines or so.  If infrequent outages will sit OK with the user, then
> > > engineer a link with single radios.
> > >
> > > If you use some of the more inexpensive radio solutions as proffered
> > > here, you could put up two links with 20' to 30' of physical
> > > separation.  Or, one dish on the water tower, and two on the new
> > > tower.  The single one could be the AP and the other two remote ones
> > > stations.  You could use an MT router running OSPF with one having a
> > > higher cost than the other.  If one failed, the other would take over.
> > >
> > > My fear of a 20 mile link would be those atmospheric events we
> > > sometimes see -- tropospheric ducting.
> > >
> > > I would be curious what you come up with.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > At 09:22 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
> > > >Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear.
> Customer
> > is
> > > >building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose
> > must
> > > >work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions?
> > > >-RickG
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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