I'm not sure of how long of a time, but over a period of say 10 years, fiber is cost effective for any developed area (subdivisions in the middle of nowhere, small towns, etc.). Rural areas are better suited for wireless.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:30 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice > There will be places that running fiber 5 miles for one or two customers > is not going to be feasible. The telcos had to run copper to provide a > telephone in many circumstances to these areas. With fiber, I don't think > they are going to do it. Not counting the cost of fiber, but the build-out > with poles and/or digging will be astounding. What's the cheaper > alternative here, and everywhere but the largest of populated areas? > Wireless. How are we gonna provide those speeds? We need more spectrum. My > guess is we will never see it under the duopoly centered FCC/all govt we > have had for the past 15 years. AND of course, the govt would never want > to do something the cheaper way. > > Scottie > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:25:23 -0500 > >>And that makes sense, however back during the rural electrification days, >>they weren't after 200 amp service, just a line and a light bulb made it >>all >>good. Everything after was built on top of that. But one could also >>argue >>that dial-up was the start and this is the additional upgrading..... But >>they are right, fiber is the one true way of bringing everyone up to the >>same level of access. I'm conflicted because both sides in it are right, >>in >>my eyes. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:17 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice >> >>A lot of organizations only consider fiber worthy of deployment going >>forward. $1500 seems about appropriate, then. >> >> >>----- >>Mike Hammett >>Intelligent Computing Solutions >>http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------- >>From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com> >>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:48 PM >>To: <wireless@wispa.org> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice >> >>> >>> I found these stats interesting: "the number of households either >>> lacking >>> Internet service altogether or using dial-up connections approaches 58 >>> million - half of the households in the United States." >>> >>> Somebody is wrong somewhere on these numbers? >>> >>> and... >>> >>> "Insight Research claims that it takes about $1,500 per household to >>> deploy broadband, bringing the amount of money needed for universal >>> access >> >>> to $60 billion." >>> >>> I know I could do mucho mucho wireless with $1500 per customer! >>> >>> Scottie >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> >>> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:28:56 -0500 >>> >>>>Maybe if it was given to those who are truly interested in providing >>>>broadband, it would be more than enough. >>>> >>>>How much more could YOU do, Scottie, if they gave you 100 grand >>>>outright? >>>>I >>>>bet it would go directly towards the customer. >>>> >>>>Now I'm sure that there are plenty of well meaning companies out there >>>>just >>>>trying for a little help and deservedly so, but basic human nature is >>>>greed >>>>and as we've talked about before, once those "Wisps by Convenience" get >>>>the >>>>cash, play Wisp until they run out of that cash and then go bye-bye, our >>>>payday will come when we are able to buy their equipment at auction. At >>>>least that's what I tell myself to feel better...... :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>Behalf Of Scottie Arnett >>>>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:20 PM >>>>To: wireless@wispa.org >>>>Subject: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice >>>> >>>>< http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Broadband-stimulus-funds-121109.aspx > >>>> >>>>"The $7.2 billion in broadband stimulus funding given out by President >>>>Obama >>>>is not even close to enough to deploy truly universal broadband access, >>>>according to a new study from Insight Research." >>>> >>>>Scottie >>>> >>>>Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >>>>$30.00/mth. >>>>Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >>>> >>>> >>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-- >>>>---- >>>>WISPA Wants You! 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