Thanks for all the tips guys. I'll definitely be doing it better next time.
Randy On 1/12/2010 10:11 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Nothing actually has to be done to seal it because, Trango includes a > rubbery gel sleeve that compresess between the passsthru metal plate and the > case, with a tight fitting hole. In most cases that can be good enough. > > But to answer your question it depends what Fiber cable type and Power type > you use. We generally dont run a dedicated power cable through that same > hole as fiber. We power the radio through one of the CAT5 ports, which has a > great paththrue grommit type. That way its one less cable to run, and we get > a redundant data path to the radio. The radio can be POE powered from either > CAT5 port. There are reasons that you might choose the management vs data > CAT5 port, dependant on the circumstances. > > (It should be noted that both teh data and fiber port can be both used as > seperate PVLANs, if desired) > > So when just fiber going through the Metal base plate, there is not much to > seal, UNLESS you do not have fiber cable adequate to survive the elements. > What we often do is we use 3ft of Flex tubing from the APEX to an outdoor > junction box, and then patch in fiber there. It can be a hassle finding a > cheap outdoor junction box. (So we made our own, for half the cost.) > > If using direct buriel multi-pair Loose tube, you can run the cable to the > outdoor junction box and terminate with a fan out kit to a LC jack patch > panel. Then use a short patch cable to extend to the APEX. > This type install is rock solid, once its done. But its a pain working with > Fan-out kits on a windy dirty roof. (If on a tower should probably be done > on ground first, but on roofs it would not fit through access holes in walls > and such) > > There is also indoor/outdoor Fiber that has an overall outer layer, and then > each inner layer also has its own individual outer jacket. This type cable > is cheaper, and can have LC connector connected directly to it, without the > hassle of a Fanout kit. This cable is also significantly thinner, and can > fit through APEX passthrough. In these cases, the cable can be run directly > into the APEX without any junctions inbetween. > > We always run Fiber that has two pair (two tx and two rx) so if one fiber > breaks, there is an immediate spare. There is room to slip both pair with > conectors inside the APEX, I think. > > It should be noted that Indoor and Outdoor fiber are not the same. It is not > just to prevent physical breaks from getting stepped on, or Firecode/UV of > sleeve. The mor important issue is that it has a different Temperature > rating for Cold. If you use indoor fiber outdoor in cold, it can crack > internally due to cold. It should be noted that allthough Outdoor fiber and > Fan-out kits will often have a different part number for its outdoor temp > rated version. But most patch panels and stuff wont have an outdoor temp > version. > > So, fo this reason, sometimes people perfer to put the fiber inside Flex, so > its one more level of temperature insulation. Actually we use something > called Liqui-tight, the grey stuff tthat can be bought just about anyware > like HomeDepot. > > We debated for quite a while, whether we should use sealed FC type > connectors inside the outdoor enclosure. The outcome was LC patch panels > were easier to find, and LC patch panels will survive the elements just fine > in most cases. > > As well, its also possible to run long fan outkits, and just run the thin > inner fibers up through the 3ft of Liqui-tight to the APEX. That will > survive the elements, if using outdoor temp version. BUT we chose NOT to do > that because we were afraid that if we performed maintenance and needed to > disconnect the fiber from the APEX, that the weight of the liqui-tight might > break the fiber or pull loose from connector, if not careful. > That is why we used a patch panel inside the Junction box, and patch cables > to the APEX. > > We rarely ever run Conduit the whole fiber cable path, its to much of a > pain. We'd rather use a fiber cable that is of a type that wont easilly > break. But depending on your install location, you may disagree for your > situation. But if you use conduit for the run, we recommend Liqui-tight, > its not all that expensive and is easy to run, because you just carry it up > in the spool. > > If you are worried about water intrusion, but dont want to use conduit, you > can just cut a 6-10" peice of liquitight and screw that to the APEX base > plate. (They make adapter to integrate to that size I think) > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Cosby"<[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:04 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port > > > >> Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link. Wondering what everyone does to >> seal up that port. The manual says you have to hook up the fiber / >> power port to metal conduit. Do you run conduit all the way back to the >> base? Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting >> on the end? Use flex? Just curious. >> >> I used a threaded metal 3/4" sweep 90, then capped it off with a Trango >> AP compression fitting. It's a little heavy though, and I worry about >> the little screws that hold the 3/4" threaded base plate getting >> stripped out. >> >> -- >> Randy Cosby >> Vice President >> InfoWest, Inc >> >> 435-674-0165 x 2010 >> >> http://www.infowest.com/ >> >> "Letting off steam always produces more heat than light." - Neal A. >> Maxwell >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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