Most resellers are cheaper, some even 50% cheaper. They achieve this by buying say 300 gigs worth of traffic (getting a great rate), then splitting the difference between that rate and the carrier's retail rate. They don't have any gear, they just tell the carrier to hook up a new port at X, which is really your equipment.
Once they have their own equipment, perform their own routing decisions, they're not merely a reseller anymore. Their gear, route, routing, etc. make a "unique" product. It's 15 miles from your home base to 3 buildings where you can obtain $4/megabit, and your network is 25 miles across. Some of those have over 15 carriers in them. I can put you in touch my with Cogent rep to explore the options for getting roof space at one of these facilities to beam that signal out. As Matt Larsen has been talking about, he built out 125 miles of backhaul to connect his network back to civilization. Others have even further to go. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Trimmell" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:19 AM To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo > Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't > have fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of John Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo > > We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for > Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. > > John > > > Mike Hammett wrote: >> I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 >> now. >> I know a couple companies were at $1. >> >> Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown >> Chicago, >> a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single >> meg >> in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Andy Trimmell" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo >> >> >>> 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to AT&T. We're paying 10x >>> that from AT&T right now. >>> >>> $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue >>> AT&T >>> for highway robbery. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo >>> >>> Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home >>> about. >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Justin Wilson" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>; "RickG" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo >>> >>> >>>> Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. >>>> One >>>> client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle >>>> are >>>> peering agreements with the big boys. The AT&t¹s of the world are sort >>>> of >>>> tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. >>>> They >>>> tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. >>>> Lots >>>> of >>>> web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. >>>> >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>>> CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced >>>> http://www.mtin.net - Homepage >>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog >>>> >>>> XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing >>>> >>>> >>>> From: RickG <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 >>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo >>>> >>>> I hear $1500 for a gig! >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my >>>>> Cogent >>>>> rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo >>>>> going >>>>> $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and >>>>> carrier >>>>> neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site >>>>> under >>>>> the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for >>>>> this >>>>> promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet >>>>> access. >>>>> >>>>> Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a >>>>> significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network >>>>> out >>>>> to >>>>> these facilities. >>>>> >>>>> Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible >>>>> Cogent >>>>> is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could >>>>> find >>>>> someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3, >>>>> InterNAP, >>>>> XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly >>>>> encourage >>>>> you to have more than one. >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network >>>>> to >>>>> Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing >>>>> provider, >>>>> etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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