John,

You are correct, Gig is starting to go for $1-$2 per mb. Not only from 
Hurricaine, although Hurricaine is clearly a disruptive force leader today.
Hurricaine is doing a big marketing push with Equinix, which I think is 
really helping them expand both in market share and quality of peering.
Having to buy Gig quantity to get a discount is no longer a disadvantage 
when it is 10x less per mb than 100mb quantity :-)

The problem is that nobody (End user customers) needs a Gig.  So providers 
dont want to sell you a gig in remote buildings where there are customers 
that you can resell to, or they under cut themselves.
They also cant do it in buildings where they have to buy/lease the fiber 
from someone else, without multiple customers to share it. It has to be from 
a place that they already cost justified the Dark fiber purchase.

Cost is still all about transport, getting into the colo.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo


We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for
Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA.

John


Mike Hammett wrote:
> I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 
> now.
> I know a couple companies were at $1.
>
> Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing.  Downtown 
> Chicago,
> a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana.  A single meg
> in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs  (or a couple gigs) in Chicago.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Andy Trimmell" <atrimm...@precisionds.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>
>
>> 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to AT&T. We're paying 10x
>> that from AT&T right now.
>>
>> $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue 
>> AT&T
>> for highway robbery.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>>
>> Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg?  $9/meg isn't much to write home about.
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Justin Wilson" <j...@mtin.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>; "RickG"
>> <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>>
>>
>>>    Yup.  If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper.
>>> One
>>> client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago.  Their biggest hurdle
>>> are
>>> peering agreements with the big boys.  The AT&t¹s of the world are sort
>>> of
>>> tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. 
>>> They
>>> tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. 
>>> Lots
>>> of
>>> web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net>
>>> CCNA ­ CCNT ­ Mikrotik Advanced
>>> http://www.mtin.net           - Homepage
>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog  - Technical Blog
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500
>>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>>>
>>> I hear $1500 for a gig!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett
>>> <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my
>>>> Cogent
>>>> rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo
>>>> going
>>>> $400/100 megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier
>>>> neutral data centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site
>>>> under
>>>> the network heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for
>>>> this
>>>> promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet
>>>> access.
>>>>
>>>> Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a
>>>> significant number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network
>>>> out
>>>> to
>>>> these facilities.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible
>>>> Cogent
>>>> is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could
>>>> find
>>>> someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3,
>>>> InterNAP,
>>>> XO, MZima, etc., etc.  It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly
>>>> encourage
>>>> you to have more than one.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network
>>>> to
>>>> Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing
>>>> provider,
>>>> etc.  These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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