Hi Steve,

One of the conditions of WISPA supporting this show will be reduced 
costs for attendees.   The promoters want as many attendees as possible 
and I told them that $250 is about the upper limit of what most WISPs 
will pay to come to a show like this.   I'd like to see the non-WISPA 3 
day pass under $300 range, and the WISPA member 3day pass under $200.    
We will be working on the details this month.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


Steve Barnes wrote:
> Matt, the only question I have would be the cost to attendees, vendors and 
> WISPs?  I can attend computer shows all the time for $599 to $899 for  a 3 
> day show. I never do.  However, a $75 to $200 show I've attended several.  
> When we were starting talking about the show on the promotions list it was a 
> lot smaller and easy to price low.  What is this new groups price structure? 
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions.
>
> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of 
> putting on a show and evaluating our options.   Before I started on that 
> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own 
> show.   I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some 
> potential as a fund raiser.
>
> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to 
> put a show on properly.   IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and 
> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale 
> up to the potential of the show.   The market is quite different right 
> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the 
> day.
>
> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus.   They are willing 
> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so 
> that both sides will benefit.   They don't know much about the WISP 
> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show 
> that our members would all like to go to.    They are going to do it on 
> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread 
> WISPAs message beyond our own little community.    Those are strong 
> positives.  
>
> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to 
> the project.    Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is.    We 
> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't 
> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go 
> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person.   These guys have a 
> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done 
> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing 
> on our own.
>
> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so 
> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to 
> happen.   For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to 
> get a show put on.
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>   
>> forwarding to the list.
>>
>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list rather 
>> than to the sender?  Thanks,
>>
>> Matt, understood.  I'd disagree with that plan of action though.  We need 
>> our own show.  It should be a fund raiser for WISPA.
>>
>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show.  I 
>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event.  Lower cost, more intimate 
>> etc.
>>
>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the year.  It 
>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together.  We know 
>> who the vendors and attendees would be.  And we know, basically, what would 
>> need to be presented.
>>
>> The members want a show.  The vendors want a show.  Someone just has to DO a 
>> show.
>>
>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes things. 
>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for here 
>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now.
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <li...@manageisp.com>
>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Marlon,
>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts into 
>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both sides 
>>> are happy with the performance of his show.
>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit 
>>> sharing.   They put in the money and the manpower, they get the profit, if 
>>> there is any.   Our goal in this is to build up our membership numbers and 
>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out about 
>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members.
>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we will 
>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show.   Also, 
>>> it should cost us little or no money.
>>> Matt Larsen
>>> vistabeam.com
>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How clear 
>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own show 
>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end up 
>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show?  Where 
>>>> there is no profit to split?
>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com>
>>>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM
>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>
   


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