Dont say "crash" when referring to Dayton - Orville or Wilbur may hear you :)
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > We could also crash over at Josh's house, drink his beer and take turns on > his PlayStation3. > > Bob- > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:14 PM > To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > I agree. But things can be overcome. As far as lodging, would depend on > how many WISPS would be attending. Wouldn't have to be in Dayton, could be > Cincinnati or Columbus, both an hour or less away but still doable. > Airfare > into Dayton is usually less than the larger cities nearby but would depend > on where one was coming from. > > There is also a convention center outside of Wilmington, Ohio. The Roberts > Convention center. Middle of Columbus, Dayton, Cincinnati. Hotel and > convention center. They'll pick up from the airports. > > But not stuck on the Dayton event, just mentioned it as an example since I > try to attend and have been impressed by the size of it. BIG! Didn't get > to go last year......... Man, to have a WISP show AND the Hamvention...... > that would truly be worthy of the word...... Wispacontacular. > > But anyhow, just points to think on. > > > That's one vote for Wispacontacular. :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Brian Webster > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:04 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging in > the > area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the convention. > There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for your > idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the > locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot of > competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay higher > airfare. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > > Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... > > I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of the > large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so > much > I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go across > town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort of > towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would we > get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. The > bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more people > without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event that > would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us > WISP > operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, of > course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use. > :) > > > Anyway, just an idea. > > Bob- > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions. > > I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of > putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on that > process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own > show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some > potential as a fund raiser. > > What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to > put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and > then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale > up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right > now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the > day. > > Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are willing > to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so > that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP > business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show > that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it on > a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread > WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong > positives. > > Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to > the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. We > will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't > really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go > far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a > staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done > more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing > on our own. > > All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so > that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to > happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to > get a show put on. > > Matt Larsen > vistabeam.com > > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > forwarding to the list. > > > > Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list rather > > than to the sender? Thanks, > > > > Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We need > > our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. > > > > Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. I > > believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more > intimate > > etc. > > > > I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the year. > It > > shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We know > > who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what > would > > need to be presented. > > > > The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has to > DO > a > > show. > > > > If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes things. > > I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for here > > right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. > > > > laters, > > marlon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <li...@manageisp.com> > > To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > > > > > > >> Marlon, > >> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts into > >> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both > sides > >> are happy with the performance of his show. > >> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit > >> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the profit, > if > >> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership numbers > and > >> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out > about > >> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. > >> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we > will > > >> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. > Also, > > >> it should cost us little or no money. > >> Matt Larsen > >> vistabeam.com > >> Marlon K. Schafer writes: > >> > >>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How > clear > > >>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own > show > >>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end up > >>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? Where > >>> there is no profit to split? > >>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> > >>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM > >>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >>> > >>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and > >>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to work > >>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with WISPA > as > >>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. > >>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so far > >>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional efforts, > >>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband > >>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what > >>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type discussions) > >>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to > >>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There was > >>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to > >>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA before > the > >>>> show. > >>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in this > >>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will share > >>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. > >>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we can > get > >>>> them worked out. > >>>> Matt Larsen > >>>> vistabeam.com > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wispashow mailing list > >>>> wispas...@wispa.org > >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wispashow mailing list > >>> wispas...@wispa.org > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wispashow mailing list > > wispas...@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > WISPA Wants You! 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