well - i think they dont for a few reasons... But the point is - they can. for most systems it is a pretty simple update...
I am not saying simply sell it at the same price mind you... but ... if they can charge $200 vs $50 - thats a heck of a revenue increase... love the Churchill statement btw :-) On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Why do it...? > > If TWC has customers why upgrade them and give them better speeds? I > doubt a significant number of people are switching from TWC to another > provider for higher speeds. > > Why aren't you replacing every one of your 5.7 APs with the pmp430? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Time Warner is a nightmare for a number of reasons... >> They are still running docsis 2 for goodness sake. >> >> While Docsis 2 was a great step forward over 1 - running @ 6.4MHz - >> allowing for some pretty interesting speeds... >> Docsis 3 is a huge step forward however - and would be a great deal >> for Time Warner to put into place... >> >> In short - Docsis 2 only allows support for 1 channel - thus a >> throughput of 30.72Mbit/s - where as Docsis 3 allows for multiple >> channels - and thus allows for each channel to push roughly 38mbps - >> so - # of channels x 30Mbit/s is absolutely awesome >> >> Not sure why they are not pushing this - ... >> >> In short - with 4 downstream and 4 upstream channels - Docsis 3 gives >> 122.88 Mbit/s >> with 8 channels down and 4 upstream - Docsis 3 gives 343Mbit/s down >> and 122.88 up >> >> Now if Comcast can do it - why cant Time Warner? >> >> >> On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >> >>> Interesting that Time Warner bursts the residential accounts, their >>> Turbo >>> service started out pretty consistent about 6 months ago with always >>> being >>> 20+mbps. Now its "flakey" at best. One minute you run a speed test >>> and its >>> 22mbps, next test its 7mbps, all over the board now. >>> >>> Kurt Fankhauser >>> WAVELINC >>> P.O. Box 126 >>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>> 419-562-6405 >>> www.wavelinc.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:25 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>> >>> They must. Not just wireless either. My Time Warner Tech says they >>> burst all residential accounts. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I think most of the WISPS that offer 6+ mbps services are >>>> "bursting" for >>>> like the first 30 seconds, then they fall back to something like >>>> 1.5mbps. >>>> >>>> I asked myself the same question until I started to think about it, >>>> they >>> are >>>> bursting, I'm sure of it... >>>> >>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>> WAVELINC >>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>> 419-562-6405 >>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >>>> [email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of MDK >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>> >>>> Yes, they can, but only a few clients per access point. You >>>> cannot do it >>>> with 30 clients on an 11A ap. You can if only 2-4 clients are ever >>>> busy >>> at >>>> the same time. But I'm seeing sustained 2mbit transfers for HOURS >>>> to >>>> around 20% of my clients. >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>> >>>>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "RickG" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>> >>>>>> If so, with what equipment? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marco Coelho >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> Are you delivering that wireless? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker <[email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> That's what we did. $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps. $49.95/ >>>>>>>> mo gets >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> 20Mbps/6Mbps. >>>>>>>> We guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed. A lot of >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> like that too. >>>>>>>> Our packages: www.peakinter.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, MDK >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really >>>>>>>>> do >>> have >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> offer your customers a decent value for their dollars. 35 >>>>>>>>> Bux for >>> a >>>>>>>>> fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days. We offer >>>>>>>>> a 300K >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> 25 >>>>>>>>> and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't' need to be the cheapest to be "competitive", but >>>>>>>>> you can't >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>> outside of normal pricing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm thinking of throwing up some MIMO gear and offering >>>>>>>>> something >>> like >>>>>>>>> a 7 >>>>>>>>> meg service. Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo. >>>>>>>>> Not the >>>>>>>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 >>>>>>>>> meg be >>> in >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> area? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>>>>>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM >>>>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage >>>>>>>>>> area and >>>>>>>>>> mailed >>>>>>>>>> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it >>>>>>>>>> being a >>>>>>>>>> promotional price. One person said as long as you have it >>>>>>>>>> they will >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> raise the rate from $15. Think its for 768k service. Anyways >>>>>>>>>> we are >>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>> about 1 person a day switching from our $35/month/768k >>>>>>>>>> wireless >>>>>>>>>> service >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> this DSL. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to >>>>>>>>>> retain >>> these >>>>>>>>>> customers???? They are not even giving us a chance to offer >>>>>>>>>> them a >>>>>>>>>> lower >>>>>>>>>> price as they all already have the DSL turned on and been >>>>>>>>>> using it >>>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>>> month before they cancel ours. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>>> WAVELINC >>>>>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>>>>> 419-562-6405 >>>>>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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