Does it have reverse compatibility with the old modems and cabling? If it's a software upgrade they'd be dumb not to. If it's a lot of hardware the cost may not justify the update.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote: > well - i think they dont for a few reasons... > But the point is - they can. for most systems it is a pretty simple > update... > > I am not saying simply sell it at the same price mind you... but ... > if they can charge $200 vs $50 - thats a heck of a revenue increase... > > love the Churchill statement btw :-) > > On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Why do it...? >> >> If TWC has customers why upgrade them and give them better speeds? I >> doubt a significant number of people are switching from TWC to another >> provider for higher speeds. >> >> Why aren't you replacing every one of your 5.7 APs with the pmp430? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts.” >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> >> wrote: >>> Time Warner is a nightmare for a number of reasons... >>> They are still running docsis 2 for goodness sake. >>> >>> While Docsis 2 was a great step forward over 1 - running @ 6.4MHz - >>> allowing for some pretty interesting speeds... >>> Docsis 3 is a huge step forward however - and would be a great deal >>> for Time Warner to put into place... >>> >>> In short - Docsis 2 only allows support for 1 channel - thus a >>> throughput of 30.72Mbit/s - where as Docsis 3 allows for multiple >>> channels - and thus allows for each channel to push roughly 38mbps - >>> so - # of channels x 30Mbit/s is absolutely awesome >>> >>> Not sure why they are not pushing this - ... >>> >>> In short - with 4 downstream and 4 upstream channels - Docsis 3 gives >>> 122.88 Mbit/s >>> with 8 channels down and 4 upstream - Docsis 3 gives 343Mbit/s down >>> and 122.88 up >>> >>> Now if Comcast can do it - why cant Time Warner? >>> >>> >>> On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting that Time Warner bursts the residential accounts, their >>>> Turbo >>>> service started out pretty consistent about 6 months ago with always >>>> being >>>> 20+mbps. Now its "flakey" at best. One minute you run a speed test >>>> and its >>>> 22mbps, next test its 7mbps, all over the board now. >>>> >>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>> WAVELINC >>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>> 419-562-6405 >>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of RickG >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:25 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>> >>>> They must. Not just wireless either. My Time Warner Tech says they >>>> burst all residential accounts. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser >>>> <k...@wavelinc.com> wrote: >>>>> I think most of the WISPS that offer 6+ mbps services are >>>>> "bursting" for >>>>> like the first 30 seconds, then they fall back to something like >>>>> 1.5mbps. >>>>> >>>>> I asked myself the same question until I started to think about it, >>>>> they >>>> are >>>>> bursting, I'm sure of it... >>>>> >>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>> WAVELINC >>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>> 419-562-6405 >>>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of MDK >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>> >>>>> Yes, they can, but only a few clients per access point. You >>>>> cannot do it >>>>> with 30 clients on an 11A ap. You can if only 2-4 clients are ever >>>>> busy >>>> at >>>>> the same time. But I'm seeing sustained 2mbit transfers for HOURS >>>>> to >>>>> around 20% of my clients. >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>> >>>>>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>>> >>>>>>> If so, with what equipment? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marco Coelho >>>>>>> <coelh...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Are you delivering that wireless? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> That's what we did. $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps. $49.95/ >>>>>>>>> mo gets >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> 20Mbps/6Mbps. >>>>>>>>> We guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed. A lot of >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>> like that too. >>>>>>>>> Our packages: www.peakinter.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, MDK >>>>>>>>> <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really >>>>>>>>>> do >>>> have >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> offer your customers a decent value for their dollars. 35 >>>>>>>>>> Bux for >>>> a >>>>>>>>>> fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days. We offer >>>>>>>>>> a 300K >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> 25 >>>>>>>>>> and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You don't' need to be the cheapest to be "competitive", but >>>>>>>>>> you can't >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>>> outside of normal pricing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking of throwing up some MIMO gear and offering >>>>>>>>>> something >>>> like >>>>>>>>>> a 7 >>>>>>>>>> meg service. Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo. >>>>>>>>>> Not the >>>>>>>>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 >>>>>>>>>> meg be >>>> in >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> area? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>>>>>>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage >>>>>>>>>>> area and >>>>>>>>>>> mailed >>>>>>>>>>> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it >>>>>>>>>>> being a >>>>>>>>>>> promotional price. One person said as long as you have it >>>>>>>>>>> they will >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> raise the rate from $15. Think its for 768k service. Anyways >>>>>>>>>>> we are >>>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>>> about 1 person a day switching from our $35/month/768k >>>>>>>>>>> wireless >>>>>>>>>>> service >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> this DSL. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to >>>>>>>>>>> retain >>>> these >>>>>>>>>>> customers???? They are not even giving us a chance to offer >>>>>>>>>>> them a >>>>>>>>>>> lower >>>>>>>>>>> price as they all already have the DSL turned on and been >>>>>>>>>>> using it >>>>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>>>> month before they cancel ours. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>>>> WAVELINC >>>>>>>>>>> P.O. 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