I'm not sure that Vyatta has much of anything over Mikrotik today, because Mikrotik has matures to be be a very complete and reliable router package.
When we originally looked at Vyatta, Mikrotik had BGP bugs, and Vyatta used Quagga and was maintaining it. But from what I here MIkrotik has stable BGP for quite a while now, so that is no longer a reason. As well, Mikrotik programmers are really good, its amazing they can produce so much for so little dollars. But they aren;t really available to custom code something that does not already fit into the Mikrotik vision. But at teh end of the day, Vyatta offfers one thing that Mikrotik has never been willing to do. Open their system, and have a mechanism to pay someone to add code. Vyatta does that well. They are expensive, but they have the skill set. And there model is paid support, so pretty sure they'd accept any kind of paid updates to teh distro. We also had looked at Vyatta because we were searching for a open maintained linux system that we could port our own proprietary management system to. For us, we determined it was more cost effective and quicker for us to just stay with what we had, but port it over to a newer Kernel. Vyatta, is straight Linux, and can handle some really extreme speeds. Easilly in the multi-gb. We did not like the Vyatta canned solutions, because they didn;t to favor Dell systems, and most all teh Dell systems are 26" deep with limited port expansion. We found if we made our own systems, we could select 14", 18", and 22" deep units that were more easilly mounted in smaller depth racks, and still ahve the latest fastest processors. Of course Vyatta can be loaded on many other systems, other than the ones they sell, but that shifts the support back to the buyer, and the Vyatta model is most attractive to those that dont want the headache of self support. I'd argue the more relevent comparision is to compare Vyatta versus Imagestream. They are the two Open router platforms. What does Vyatta have that Imagestream cant give you? Well, Vyatta is a software platform, so it does give the buyer more options on verious applications to use it. For example, using community version at no charge in applications that can survive not having support. But the flip side is that Imagestream also offers a wide varietty of configurations now right out of the box. They have low cost models, and high performance models. All three platforms (Vyatta, Mikrotik, Imagestream) all have a compelte feature set to do 95% of what a buyer will need done. I really think it boils down to what type total package you need. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? So who has used Vyatta and Mikrotik? Differences? On 4/3/10, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote: > vyatta overview: http://www.vyatta.com/products/index.php > > PFSense overview: http://www.pfsense.org > > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > >> I love Vyatta. I love PFSense... I love a bunch of other >> applications that can do this as well... BUT it might be worth asking >> what the job that you want the router to perform. >> >> While some may bash vYatta - >> >> Keep in mind - when the reload happened - they specifically did that >> for their own Support Contracts ... folks that paid them - but yes - a >> major release required a reload. >> I can tell horror stories about having to do this w/ Cisco Vax >> 7200's 2650's and such as well. IOS updates do not always go as >> well as they advertise... >> >> Why I do like vYatta is the simple fact they provide both the CLI and >> GUI - (command line interface and graphical user interface)... >> >> Here are a few reasons why folks in this board should consider vYatta >> community edition: (free) >> >> 1. Load Balancing >> 2. BGP (Full ) >> 3. vLAN - do vlans out to the radios >> 4. PPPOE - if you wanted to use it >> 5. Parental Controls >> 6. Speed Control / Traffic Shaping - You can do this right on your >> router. >> 7. SQUID - cache things vs hitting the web all the time for the same >> content (like windows updates, youtubes, etc ) >> >> >> I resell vYatta paid version for those interested - but for most the >> community center is just fine. The paid edition will give you all of >> the aforementioned with the ability to obtain paid support - and this >> is based upon the following: >> >> 1. what type of contract you have purchased >> 2. severity of the request - (ie everything down vs just a feature >> request) >> >> >> >> >> that being said - WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO ? >> >> If you have a simple setup - and just need full BGP - you might also >> want to check out another Open Source Project called PFSense. >> >> PFSense is full FreeBSD - runs on most any x86 hardware. >> I can help any of you with this as well. The PFSense book is a great >> place to start - and is written for someone who has never done >> routing... >> >> one last thing about pfsense... Its a full bsd license - you can even >> rebrand it. >> >> I have a bunch of PF systems out in the field as CPE for firewalling >> and such - all running under our logo and skin when a client logs in. >> a simple 1U rack mount makes that an awesome option - so does a >> simple flash drive on a card in a box ... >> >> Ask questions if I can help either on or off list >> >> :-) >> >> Glenn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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