*Versions 3.10-20 (ish not sure exactly where) had a hell of a battle with
x86 and multiple CPUs/cores.
*I had some 1xx and 5xx boards that would lock up over time.
*Nstreme2 (dual nstreme) locked up for me when I used it.
*Wasn't it 3.20 that caused x86 to lock up if there was a simple queue?
That was a fun one...

The more you use (dare I say) any product the more flaws you find.  Don't
expect anything to be perfect, but rather find what fits best.

Josh Luthman
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On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Robert West <[email protected]>wrote:

> The only time I ever had a Mikrotik lock up was due to something stupid
> that
> I did, not the router.  Rock solid when not configured by me.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:43 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>
> I would have to agree. Have had routers doing lot of work that had uptime
> over a year (one that almost hit 500 days but lightning got the better of
> one ethernet port). The ones I seen problems it tend to be bad PC hardware
> or lack of memory. One router I saw would experience issues where vlans
> would die and ip's assigned to the vlan interfaces would go invalid. Turned
> out the unit had to little ram for what was going on on it (vlans, dns
> proxy, queues, lot of firewall rules, layer 7 firewall rules, dhcp servers
> and vpn server) installed more ram and unit ran flawless since (had 256MB
> to
> start with, 512MB improved but would occasionally still have issues and
> need
> reboot, 1GB and no issues after running for months).
>
> /Eje
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis Johnson <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:12:38
> To: WISPA General List<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to be the first to say that the article about Skybeam seems
> a little over dramatic. The quote that their Mikrotik routers had to be
> rebooted every few days would indicate to me that they had hardware
> problems, not software (Mikrotik) problems.
>
> I have Mikrotik routers on my network that have been up over a full year
> without a single reboot or issue. The only reason it's only a year is
> due to software upgrades. With over 200 Mikrotik routers on my network
> (several moving over 100Mbps of traffic and 10,000pps daily and one
> moving over 400Mbps and 100,000pps), I can tell you Mikrotik is one of
> the most solid, reliable packages available.
>
> Yes, you are locked into their interface and CLI. Yes, it does have some
> bugs and issues at times, but overall the best routing package I have seen.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Glenn Kelley wrote:
> > Josh
> >
> > Largest difference I have seen is in regards to load (and cost)
> > Freeware community editions ... well  cost is pretty low - especially
> > if you have vmware already running, xen running - or a good pc or
> > server around.
> > that being said
> >
> > Mikrotik from experience can choke on DDOS attacks above 100K pps on a
> > dual xeon - with vYatta you don't see much of a load.
> >
> > A good study on this is with SkyBeam:
> http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/casestudies/Vyatta_Skybeamcase.pdf
> >
> > might be worth asking them directly
> >
> >
> > I'm not far from you if you want an in person overview :-)  - thinking
> > of hamfest
> >
> > I'm out in Court House - about an hour and 1/2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >
> >
> >> So who has used Vyatta and Mikrotik?  Differences?
> >>
> >> On 4/3/10, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> vyatta overview:  http://www.vyatta.com/products/index.php
> >>>
> >>> PFSense overview:  http://www.pfsense.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I love Vyatta.  I love PFSense...  I love a bunch of other
> >>>> applications that can do this as well...  BUT it might be worth
> >>>> asking
> >>>> what the job that you want the router to perform.
> >>>>
> >>>> While some may bash vYatta -
> >>>>
> >>>> Keep in mind - when the reload happened - they specifically did that
> >>>> for their own Support Contracts ... folks that paid them - but yes
> >>>> - a
> >>>> major release required a reload.
> >>>> I can tell horror stories about having to do this w/ Cisco Vax
> >>>> 7200's   2650's and such as well.   IOS updates do not always go as
> >>>> well as they advertise...
> >>>>
> >>>> Why I do like vYatta is the simple fact they provide both the CLI
> >>>> and
> >>>> GUI - (command line interface and graphical user interface)...
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are a few reasons why folks in this board should consider
> >>>> vYatta
> >>>> community edition: (free)
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.  Load Balancing
> >>>> 2.  BGP (Full )
> >>>> 3.  vLAN - do vlans out to the radios
> >>>> 4.  PPPOE - if you wanted to use it
> >>>> 5.  Parental Controls
> >>>> 6.  Speed Control / Traffic Shaping -   You can do this right on
> >>>> your
> >>>> router.
> >>>> 7.  SQUID -  cache things vs hitting the web all the time for the
> >>>> same
> >>>> content  (like windows updates, youtubes, etc )
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I resell vYatta paid version for those interested - but for most the
> >>>> community center is just fine.  The paid edition will give you all
> >>>> of
> >>>> the aforementioned with the ability to obtain paid support - and
> >>>> this
> >>>> is based upon the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.  what type of contract you have purchased
> >>>> 2.  severity of the request - (ie everything down vs just a feature
> >>>> request)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> that being said -  WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO ?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have a simple setup - and just need full BGP - you might also
> >>>> want to check out another Open Source Project called PFSense.
> >>>>
> >>>> PFSense is full FreeBSD - runs on most any x86 hardware.
> >>>> I can help any of you with this as well.   The PFSense book is a
> >>>> great
> >>>> place to start - and is written for someone who has never done
> >>>> routing...
> >>>>
> >>>> one last thing about pfsense...  Its a full bsd license - you can
> >>>> even
> >>>> rebrand it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a bunch of PF systems out in the field as CPE for firewalling
> >>>> and such - all running under our logo and skin when a client logs
> >>>> in.
> >>>> a simple 1U rack mount makes that an awesome option -  so does a
> >>>> simple flash drive on a card in a box ...
> >>>>
> >>>> Ask questions if I can help either on or off list
> >>>>
> >>>> :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Glenn
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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