Does layer7 rules demand that much memory?  It's the only thing on
that list that I think would.   Are the other things heavily used?

On 4/3/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would have to agree. Have had routers doing lot of work that had uptime
> over a year (one that almost hit 500 days but lightning got the better of
> one ethernet port). The ones I seen problems it tend to be bad PC hardware
> or lack of memory. One router I saw would experience issues where vlans
> would die and ip's assigned to the vlan interfaces would go invalid. Turned
> out the unit had to little ram for what was going on on it (vlans, dns
> proxy, queues, lot of firewall rules, layer 7 firewall rules, dhcp servers
> and vpn server) installed more ram and unit ran flawless since (had 256MB to
> start with, 512MB improved but would occasionally still have issues and need
> reboot, 1GB and no issues after running for months).
>
> /Eje
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis Johnson <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:12:38
> To: WISPA General List<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to be the first to say that the article about Skybeam seems
> a little over dramatic. The quote that their Mikrotik routers had to be
> rebooted every few days would indicate to me that they had hardware
> problems, not software (Mikrotik) problems.
>
> I have Mikrotik routers on my network that have been up over a full year
> without a single reboot or issue. The only reason it's only a year is
> due to software upgrades. With over 200 Mikrotik routers on my network
> (several moving over 100Mbps of traffic and 10,000pps daily and one
> moving over 400Mbps and 100,000pps), I can tell you Mikrotik is one of
> the most solid, reliable packages available.
>
> Yes, you are locked into their interface and CLI. Yes, it does have some
> bugs and issues at times, but overall the best routing package I have seen.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Glenn Kelley wrote:
>> Josh
>>
>> Largest difference I have seen is in regards to load (and cost)
>> Freeware community editions ... well  cost is pretty low - especially
>> if you have vmware already running, xen running - or a good pc or
>> server around.
>> that being said
>>
>> Mikrotik from experience can choke on DDOS attacks above 100K pps on a
>> dual xeon - with vYatta you don't see much of a load.
>>
>> A good study on this is with SkyBeam:
>> http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/casestudies/Vyatta_Skybeamcase.pdf
>>
>> might be worth asking them directly
>>
>>
>> I'm not far from you if you want an in person overview :-)  - thinking
>> of hamfest
>>
>> I'm out in Court House - about an hour and 1/2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So who has used Vyatta and Mikrotik?  Differences?
>>>
>>> On 4/3/10, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> vyatta overview:  http://www.vyatta.com/products/index.php
>>>>
>>>> PFSense overview:  http://www.pfsense.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I love Vyatta.  I love PFSense...  I love a bunch of other
>>>>> applications that can do this as well...  BUT it might be worth
>>>>> asking
>>>>> what the job that you want the router to perform.
>>>>>
>>>>> While some may bash vYatta -
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind - when the reload happened - they specifically did that
>>>>> for their own Support Contracts ... folks that paid them - but yes
>>>>> - a
>>>>> major release required a reload.
>>>>> I can tell horror stories about having to do this w/ Cisco Vax
>>>>> 7200's   2650's and such as well.   IOS updates do not always go as
>>>>> well as they advertise...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why I do like vYatta is the simple fact they provide both the CLI
>>>>> and
>>>>> GUI - (command line interface and graphical user interface)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are a few reasons why folks in this board should consider
>>>>> vYatta
>>>>> community edition: (free)
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.  Load Balancing
>>>>> 2.  BGP (Full )
>>>>> 3.  vLAN - do vlans out to the radios
>>>>> 4.  PPPOE - if you wanted to use it
>>>>> 5.  Parental Controls
>>>>> 6.  Speed Control / Traffic Shaping -   You can do this right on
>>>>> your
>>>>> router.
>>>>> 7.  SQUID -  cache things vs hitting the web all the time for the
>>>>> same
>>>>> content  (like windows updates, youtubes, etc )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I resell vYatta paid version for those interested - but for most the
>>>>> community center is just fine.  The paid edition will give you all
>>>>> of
>>>>> the aforementioned with the ability to obtain paid support - and
>>>>> this
>>>>> is based upon the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.  what type of contract you have purchased
>>>>> 2.  severity of the request - (ie everything down vs just a feature
>>>>> request)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> that being said -  WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a simple setup - and just need full BGP - you might also
>>>>> want to check out another Open Source Project called PFSense.
>>>>>
>>>>> PFSense is full FreeBSD - runs on most any x86 hardware.
>>>>> I can help any of you with this as well.   The PFSense book is a
>>>>> great
>>>>> place to start - and is written for someone who has never done
>>>>> routing...
>>>>>
>>>>> one last thing about pfsense...  Its a full bsd license - you can
>>>>> even
>>>>> rebrand it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a bunch of PF systems out in the field as CPE for firewalling
>>>>> and such - all running under our logo and skin when a client logs
>>>>> in.
>>>>> a simple 1U rack mount makes that an awesome option -  so does a
>>>>> simple flash drive on a card in a box ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask questions if I can help either on or off list
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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