A friend just forwarded this to me:

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "pick up 
your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the 
promised land."

Nearly 75 years agao, Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovel, sit on your 
asses, and light up a camel, this is the promised land."

Now, our Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed our asses, raised the price 
of camels, and mortgaged the promised land!

Furthermore, I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, 
the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement 
funds, etc.  I called Lifeline, the suicide help line. Got a call center in 
Pakistan. I told them I was suicidal.

They all got excited and asked me if I could drive a truck.

Tom S.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RickG" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was Pigs fly, now "company man"


>I think he's trying to feed us ;)
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Jack Unger <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Please don't feed the MDK troll.
>>
>> MDK wrote:
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>> 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:38 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free enterprise,sure, when pigs fly
>>
>>
>> Give the facts, give the opinion, leave the radical commentary for the
>> other
>> lists for people who share your views and want to hear it.
>>
>>
>> Company Man.
>> It's a term used at times to describe someone who is engaged by the top
>> management to work among the producers, to make sure that nobody 
>> rebelled,
>> everyone followed policy, and to give management notice if anyone tended 
>> to
>> be outspoken or lead complaining about things ythat were wrong.   Their 
>> job
>> was to help squelch or otherwise shut down disagreement with the top 
>> brass.
>> Often spies for management, to find out who to get rid of.   Generally a
>> derogative term.   Used deliberately by me.
>> Let's imagine, if you will, that instead of being a nation, we're just a 
>> big
>> company.   After all, the job of politics is little more than to force
>> people to behave certain ways, spend the money they earn for what the top
>> brass want.
>> Today, almost 3 of every 10 dollars of income is spent by the
>> administrations.   That is, management consumes, without investing a 
>> penny
>> in productivity, almost 1/3 of all the company revenues.     This year, 
>> the
>> company will spend almost twice what it takes in in revenues.   The rest
>> will be borrowed in the name of the employees.   Every management 
>> function
>> of the central office is duplicated by the state offices.   They do not
>> agree on the rule in the books that you must follow.    Almost every
>> management function of the state administration is duplicated at the 
>> central
>> office, as well.   Again, the rules are not the same.    And in spite of 
>> all
>> that spending, NOTHING IS INVESTED IN IMPROVING PRODUCTIVITY.    Nor has 
>> it
>> been in at least a couple decades.
>> Despite the fact that nobody in the "main office" produces anything, has 
>> any
>> idea how to do anything the company does, and the hiring policy requires
>> neither experience nor knowledge of what is produced,  the main office 
>> has
>> produced so many rules about how to run it, that their office building 
>> that
>> houses JUST THE PRINTOUTS was in danger of collapsing under the weight.
>> And that's just the paperwork about former employee medical benefits.  (
>> google for story of VA offices threatened by the sheer weight of case 
>> files
>> backlogged)
>> The main office spends about 1 of every 3 dollars that the company takes 
>> in,
>> and it controls additionally about 2 of every 10 dollars the company 
>> brings
>> in, but it does so simply by requiring others to spend it - none of which 
>> is
>> invested in productivity - almost all is spent to PREVENT productivity.
>> In addition to that, the main office confiscates 17% of every employee's
>> paycheck to spend, and promises that when you retire, it'll pay it back 
>> to
>> you... in payments - if you live long enough.    Further,  it takes 
>> anywhere
>> from 0 to 40% of everything you have left after that in your paycheck, to
>> spend for you.    With this confiscated money it will do such valuable
>> things as buy viagra for people in jail for committing sexual offenses 
>> and
>> study why wolves eat sheep.
>> The main office determines, by vote, which groups of people it takes what
>> percentage from.   It has figured out that so long as at least half of 
>> the
>> employees don't get money confiscated, the majority will be happy with
>> benefits it gives away, having taken it from the minority of employees.
>> The company is not well off, having accumulated debt and IOU statements
>> amounting to approximately a quarter million dollars per person, for each
>> family represented by an employee.   The families ARE responsible for 
>> future
>> repayment of this debt, and the main office continues to borrow and write
>> IOU's amounting to 10's of thousands of dollars per family member each 
>> year.
>> But, they promise, that it won't be anyone complaining who'll have to pay
>> the debt back, they'll take it from "someone else".
>> By the time you add up all the people who are hired in the main office, 
>> and
>> all the other offices, plus the various contracted out services they 
>> hire,
>> there are approximately 2 people who are management or hired by 
>> management
>> to do stuff for management, out of every 5 people in the company.
>> To summarize,  this company has indebted every employee's family member 
>> by
>> at least 1/4 of a million dollars.   The average wage earned by an 
>> employee
>> not in management is about 40,000.   Those in management average almost
>> double that.    Yet, nobody in management is liable for a single dollar 
>> of
>> company debt, their retirement and retirement benefits are fully secured 
>> and
>> paid for.   The employees on the other hand, are simply given company 
>> IOU's
>> equal to less than minimum wage as a retirement plan, and the company has
>> plans to confiscate all the employee's own retirement savings and replace 
>> it
>> with more IOU's.    Anyone who is paid by the piece is fined for excess
>> production, overtime is fined,  even excess contributions to your own
>> retirement are fined, with the main office collecting all the fines. 
>> The
>> company just took over all the decisions about health care, and have 
>> started
>> the process to confiscate approximately 30% of the average take-home pay 
>> to
>> go to the central office.   In return, they promise you'll get whatever 
>> you
>> need whenver you need it.   Unless the company can't pay for it, of 
>> course.
>> But, that'll never happen, of course.  Or, so they promise.   It sparked
>> outrage, so they promised to take the money from only 30% of the 
>> employees,
>> to give to the other 70.   So long as a majority don't complain to loud,
>> the polls the company takes will show great satisfaction.
>> Now, each time one of the employees complains that this company is poorly
>> run, is astonishingly incompetently managed, or otherwise comments what 
>> we
>> ALL know is dead on true about the gross incompetence and generalized
>> corruption that permeates the company, along come the "company men" to 
>> shush
>> us up, threaten us with social stigmatism, or even some harsh physical or
>> other vengeance.
>> The company, mind you, has a charter.   A contract, built into the 
>> bylaws,
>> that govern what the main office does, what it can do, what it can't do, 
>> and
>> it established the company on the notion that the company would provide
>> direction, protection, and little else, and that the employees would and
>> could profit from their own initiative.  Heck, the main office was to be 
>> so
>> small it was to be funded merely by a slight markup on products sold to
>> other companies.  The employees were to keep everything they earned, 
>> except
>> for what they themselves voted on to fund the state, regional and local
>> offices.   And, the decisions about investment in productivity were made
>> directly by the employees themselves.   For nearly 200 years the company,
>> and it's employees flourished and advanced at a rate that astounded the
>> entire world.   And then, during some hard times, some guys threw away 
>> the
>> rulebook.   Now it's all but bankrupt, the employees themselves are also
>> bankrupt from the debt the company has obligated them to, including the
>> IOU's that, again, are drawn and written on the personal fortunes of the
>> present and future employees.   Welcome to 2010.
>> As I read your commentary directed toward me, I realized that I was 
>> supposed
>> to be intimidated, and that I was supposed to feel shamed by your 
>> superior
>> intellect and your "reasonable" positions.   Oh, no.  Hell NO!    Not 
>> only
>> am I NOT radical in the slightest, I'm merely pointing out the most
>> simplistic, obvious, and most fundamental of the gross idiocy that's come 
>> to
>> be.     You're a great "company man".    You definitely have sold your 
>> soul
>> to parrot the company line.    But hell, not a business man with two 
>> working
>> brain cells is left who could be convinced that what you're defending is
>> anything but colossal stupidity.   I'm not radical, I'm just simply
>> sensible.   I'm sorry you are so threatened by truth, by something that
>> withstands the test of time and every intellectual measure of truth.
>> We were left with a charter, with founding documents, and a set of laws 
>> that
>> describe how the place (country) is supposed to work.   And, they 
>> followed
>> those rules well for a long time and we have been incomprehensibly 
>> blessed,
>> as has the whole world, by the fact that we did follow the rules.   They 
>> are
>> wise, they are prudent, they are very, very well drafted.   They delegate
>> responsibility to the individual for almost everything, and very, very
>> little to the federal government.    And, when we have deviated from 
>> them,
>> we have the obvious and apparent results.    So, suggesting we back to 
>> how
>> things are SUPPOSED to be is "radical"?   I think not.   Defending how
>> things are would be "radical".   But, more accurately,  utterly and
>> hopelessly wrong or stupid.    As, I have come to believe, ARE YOU, 
>> company
>> man.    Get lost.   This nation needs no more of the corruption, 
>> stupidity,
>> and gross incompetence that got us by pretending that those in DC were 
>> wise
>> and inerrant.   They weren't.   And now we're all paying the damn price.
>> Between the legal debts and the contractual obligations signed on our
>> behalf,  this nation has currently 74 TRILLION DOLLARS in obligations.
>> That's the debt, the "social contract" spending like Medicare and 
>> Medicaid
>> and Social Security (none of which is funded, it's all just IOU's), and 
>> all
>> other legal obligations combined.   After Obamacare ends private medical
>> care by bankrupting the insurers and most providers, then that figure 
>> will
>> likely go up by 50 to 100% overnight.
>> As businessman, I find it utterly incomprehensible that anyone in 
>> business
>> would defend the monstrosity we have created for ourselves.    It's time 
>> to
>> undo it.    And to send the "company men" packing off to the land of
>> irrelevance, on display in the Museum of Really Bad Ideas.   Sure, there 
>> is
>> no social club of "supporters" of such dull and boring advocacy.     It
>> would seem that even the dullest of the dull, this great experiment in 
>> the
>> exercise of unrestrained power has been an epic disaster.    Why, then 
>> are
>> so many of you utterly afraid to open your mouth, to stand on principle?
>> Why are the members of WISPA trembling in fear of the notion of having 
>> WISPA
>> go to DC and say "Hey, you're way overgrown here, you need to get back to
>> your proper boundaries of being a PRUDENT STEWARD, not an auctioneer of
>> public assets to to the highest bidder!"?   Is it because the wording is 
>> old
>> fashioned, or the notion not "hip"?
>> Or is it that you're so desperate for a few crumbs from the master's 
>> table,
>> you''re willing to perpetuate the charade that they're the master and 
>> we're
>> the servants, instead of being the other way around, which is THE 
>> CONTRACT
>> WE HAVE WITH THEM????     Or is it that you've just grown comfortable 
>> with
>> the way things are?    Well, a currency collapse will definitely put the 
>> lie
>> to that little bit of self delusion.     Welcome to reality.    Are we 
>> going
>> to be responsible, or are we just going to continue letting the children
>> play with the credit cards to the family fortune?
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