I think he's trying to feed us ;) On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Jack Unger <[email protected]> wrote: > Please don't feed the MDK troll. > > MDK wrote: > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy > 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:38 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free enterprise,sure, when pigs fly > > > Give the facts, give the opinion, leave the radical commentary for the > other > lists for people who share your views and want to hear it. > > > Company Man. > It's a term used at times to describe someone who is engaged by the top > management to work among the producers, to make sure that nobody rebelled, > everyone followed policy, and to give management notice if anyone tended to > be outspoken or lead complaining about things ythat were wrong. Their job > was to help squelch or otherwise shut down disagreement with the top brass. > Often spies for management, to find out who to get rid of. Generally a > derogative term. Used deliberately by me. > Let's imagine, if you will, that instead of being a nation, we're just a big > company. After all, the job of politics is little more than to force > people to behave certain ways, spend the money they earn for what the top > brass want. > Today, almost 3 of every 10 dollars of income is spent by the > administrations. That is, management consumes, without investing a penny > in productivity, almost 1/3 of all the company revenues. This year, the > company will spend almost twice what it takes in in revenues. The rest > will be borrowed in the name of the employees. Every management function > of the central office is duplicated by the state offices. They do not > agree on the rule in the books that you must follow. Almost every > management function of the state administration is duplicated at the central > office, as well. Again, the rules are not the same. And in spite of all > that spending, NOTHING IS INVESTED IN IMPROVING PRODUCTIVITY. Nor has it > been in at least a couple decades. > Despite the fact that nobody in the "main office" produces anything, has any > idea how to do anything the company does, and the hiring policy requires > neither experience nor knowledge of what is produced, the main office has > produced so many rules about how to run it, that their office building that > houses JUST THE PRINTOUTS was in danger of collapsing under the weight. > And that's just the paperwork about former employee medical benefits. ( > google for story of VA offices threatened by the sheer weight of case files > backlogged) > The main office spends about 1 of every 3 dollars that the company takes in, > and it controls additionally about 2 of every 10 dollars the company brings > in, but it does so simply by requiring others to spend it - none of which is > invested in productivity - almost all is spent to PREVENT productivity. > In addition to that, the main office confiscates 17% of every employee's > paycheck to spend, and promises that when you retire, it'll pay it back to > you... in payments - if you live long enough. Further, it takes anywhere > from 0 to 40% of everything you have left after that in your paycheck, to > spend for you. With this confiscated money it will do such valuable > things as buy viagra for people in jail for committing sexual offenses and > study why wolves eat sheep. > The main office determines, by vote, which groups of people it takes what > percentage from. It has figured out that so long as at least half of the > employees don't get money confiscated, the majority will be happy with > benefits it gives away, having taken it from the minority of employees. > The company is not well off, having accumulated debt and IOU statements > amounting to approximately a quarter million dollars per person, for each > family represented by an employee. The families ARE responsible for future > repayment of this debt, and the main office continues to borrow and write > IOU's amounting to 10's of thousands of dollars per family member each year. > But, they promise, that it won't be anyone complaining who'll have to pay > the debt back, they'll take it from "someone else". > By the time you add up all the people who are hired in the main office, and > all the other offices, plus the various contracted out services they hire, > there are approximately 2 people who are management or hired by management > to do stuff for management, out of every 5 people in the company. > To summarize, this company has indebted every employee's family member by > at least 1/4 of a million dollars. The average wage earned by an employee > not in management is about 40,000. Those in management average almost > double that. Yet, nobody in management is liable for a single dollar of > company debt, their retirement and retirement benefits are fully secured and > paid for. The employees on the other hand, are simply given company IOU's > equal to less than minimum wage as a retirement plan, and the company has > plans to confiscate all the employee's own retirement savings and replace it > with more IOU's. Anyone who is paid by the piece is fined for excess > production, overtime is fined, even excess contributions to your own > retirement are fined, with the main office collecting all the fines. The > company just took over all the decisions about health care, and have started > the process to confiscate approximately 30% of the average take-home pay to > go to the central office. In return, they promise you'll get whatever you > need whenver you need it. Unless the company can't pay for it, of course. > But, that'll never happen, of course. Or, so they promise. It sparked > outrage, so they promised to take the money from only 30% of the employees, > to give to the other 70. So long as a majority don't complain to loud, > the polls the company takes will show great satisfaction. > Now, each time one of the employees complains that this company is poorly > run, is astonishingly incompetently managed, or otherwise comments what we > ALL know is dead on true about the gross incompetence and generalized > corruption that permeates the company, along come the "company men" to shush > us up, threaten us with social stigmatism, or even some harsh physical or > other vengeance. > The company, mind you, has a charter. A contract, built into the bylaws, > that govern what the main office does, what it can do, what it can't do, and > it established the company on the notion that the company would provide > direction, protection, and little else, and that the employees would and > could profit from their own initiative. Heck, the main office was to be so > small it was to be funded merely by a slight markup on products sold to > other companies. The employees were to keep everything they earned, except > for what they themselves voted on to fund the state, regional and local > offices. And, the decisions about investment in productivity were made > directly by the employees themselves. For nearly 200 years the company, > and it's employees flourished and advanced at a rate that astounded the > entire world. And then, during some hard times, some guys threw away the > rulebook. Now it's all but bankrupt, the employees themselves are also > bankrupt from the debt the company has obligated them to, including the > IOU's that, again, are drawn and written on the personal fortunes of the > present and future employees. Welcome to 2010. > As I read your commentary directed toward me, I realized that I was supposed > to be intimidated, and that I was supposed to feel shamed by your superior > intellect and your "reasonable" positions. Oh, no. Hell NO! Not only > am I NOT radical in the slightest, I'm merely pointing out the most > simplistic, obvious, and most fundamental of the gross idiocy that's come to > be. You're a great "company man". You definitely have sold your soul > to parrot the company line. But hell, not a business man with two working > brain cells is left who could be convinced that what you're defending is > anything but colossal stupidity. I'm not radical, I'm just simply > sensible. I'm sorry you are so threatened by truth, by something that > withstands the test of time and every intellectual measure of truth. > We were left with a charter, with founding documents, and a set of laws that > describe how the place (country) is supposed to work. And, they followed > those rules well for a long time and we have been incomprehensibly blessed, > as has the whole world, by the fact that we did follow the rules. They are > wise, they are prudent, they are very, very well drafted. They delegate > responsibility to the individual for almost everything, and very, very > little to the federal government. And, when we have deviated from them, > we have the obvious and apparent results. So, suggesting we back to how > things are SUPPOSED to be is "radical"? I think not. Defending how > things are would be "radical". But, more accurately, utterly and > hopelessly wrong or stupid. As, I have come to believe, ARE YOU, company > man. Get lost. This nation needs no more of the corruption, stupidity, > and gross incompetence that got us by pretending that those in DC were wise > and inerrant. They weren't. And now we're all paying the damn price. > Between the legal debts and the contractual obligations signed on our > behalf, this nation has currently 74 TRILLION DOLLARS in obligations. > That's the debt, the "social contract" spending like Medicare and Medicaid > and Social Security (none of which is funded, it's all just IOU's), and all > other legal obligations combined. After Obamacare ends private medical > care by bankrupting the insurers and most providers, then that figure will > likely go up by 50 to 100% overnight. > As businessman, I find it utterly incomprehensible that anyone in business > would defend the monstrosity we have created for ourselves. It's time to > undo it. And to send the "company men" packing off to the land of > irrelevance, on display in the Museum of Really Bad Ideas. Sure, there is > no social club of "supporters" of such dull and boring advocacy. It > would seem that even the dullest of the dull, this great experiment in the > exercise of unrestrained power has been an epic disaster. Why, then are > so many of you utterly afraid to open your mouth, to stand on principle? > Why are the members of WISPA trembling in fear of the notion of having WISPA > go to DC and say "Hey, you're way overgrown here, you need to get back to > your proper boundaries of being a PRUDENT STEWARD, not an auctioneer of > public assets to to the highest bidder!"? Is it because the wording is old > fashioned, or the notion not "hip"? > Or is it that you're so desperate for a few crumbs from the master's table, > you''re willing to perpetuate the charade that they're the master and we're > the servants, instead of being the other way around, which is THE CONTRACT > WE HAVE WITH THEM???? Or is it that you've just grown comfortable with > the way things are? Well, a currency collapse will definitely put the lie > to that little bit of self delusion. Welcome to reality. Are we going > to be responsible, or are we just going to continue letting the children > play with the credit cards to the family fortune? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing > Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since > 1993 > www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 [email protected] > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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