Linksys defaults upnp to on. marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP
Default for everything I'm aware of is off. Unless someone has a different experience? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Blair Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > we do. > > RickG wrote: > > So, do you turn off UPnP or not? > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Greg Ihnen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I've heard (I think it was on a Security Now podcast) that UPnP opens up > big > security hole for the end user (your customers) because there are trojans > that use UPnP to poke a hole in the router and then it phones home with > the > IP address and port it opened. If that compromised machine starts running > amok on your network then it would be a problem for you. > > Greg > > On Aug 2, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > > > Man that sucks. We turn off upnp on ALL routers. I've always been told > that it's a big security hole. > > Thoughts on that? > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:29 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP > > > I don't seem to have any issues with double or triple NAT. > > When I was working with MT to fix the upnp issue with Xboxes. I have > it marked as 4.6 with modifications (it was an unofficial 4.6 they > gave me) so I would say 4.7 or higher should enable Xbox upnp. Even > this requires a public IP on the Mikrotik to remove even nice strict > (I think it's called open?). > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > So does anyone here have any customers that use XBOX live and bark to you > about you NAT? Apparently the XBOX live service is very picky about being > behind any NAT device and its ability to make connections to other > servers. > >From what I gathered is that the LIVE service uses Universal Plug and > >Play > (UPnP) to get around this but the question I have is. If your doing > masquerade on a Mikrotik Core Router should you enable UPnP on that > device? > Or should I just issue public IP’s to the customer that games and let them > worry about it? And if you have UPnP enabled on the core router and then > do > a double-NAT through the customers Linksys router with UPnP enable does > that > not work because of the double-NAT? > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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