OK, so should we be doing DNS redirecting.

Redirect "hulu.com" to....  "allowvideo.com" for $9.95 Shopping Cart item.

Alacart content?

Its no different than Microsoft Windows XP, being allowed to bundle 
Iexplorer and MSN with WindowsOS, as long as they included signup links for 
downloading and subscribing to NetScape and one ro two other Big Internet 
Providers.

As long as its not discriminatory.... Make sure to include an Allow Item for 
EVERY Video Provider you can think of.... Example....

Welcome to Allow Video.com Shopping Cart.
1. Enable Hulu $9.95
2. Enable NetFlix $9.95
3. Enable GoogleTV $9.95
4. Enable ESPN360 $9.95  (Note... would redirect to third party ISP 
partnering with your ISP able to deliver an ESPN360 compatible IP or cached 
data :-)
5. Enable MYISP TV  (Note: charge for access to your own Video services that 
you self host/offer, so its availble accross other ISPs also from this site, 
and so non-discriminary)

Disclaimer: This site/fee allows access to reach the above video provider 
sites. Access to enter and obtain the site's offered services and content is 
not covered by this fee. Additional subscription fees may be required 
directly by the Video content provider. View their sites for their fees, 
terms and conditions..

So.....
Comcast my video access provider charges consumers $9.95 for HBO and $9.95 
more for Showtime alacart, why cant I as the Internet Access provider charge 
my subs the same?

The problem is NOT charging for content. The problem is not allowing some to 
buy access to content. The problem is not allowing all to carry or resell 
the content.

The facts are...Verizon and Comcasts wont charge for content, if we are 
allowed to carry content and we choose to not charge for it. If we charge 
more than the market will bear, consumers will leave us, and that keeps us 
honeset and fair. Its already established that Consumers have been willing 
to pay for content.

 If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a 
revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's


>Is it even legal to block IP addresses???

I don't think there are any laws on it at this point.  It's like
ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept
policy for those that pay.

>If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???

Lots of overhead, lots of DNS queries.

Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
<[email protected]> wrote:
> WAIT...
>
> Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
> If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are 
>> interfering with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth, 
>> but the wireless network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in 
>> places, hard to educate people that their using netflix ruins the 
>> internet for X number of other customers on that AP... when many other 
>> customers on the network can use netfix with no problems.
>>
>> We do not have an enforced overage policy, but with the increased 
>> accounting with our PPPoE changeover, we will be able to enforce soon. 
>> I'm not looking forward to those phone calls, but it must be done...
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:51 AM, David E. Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers 
>>> that are abusing the service.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify 
>>> what that means - the customer pays for bits to be delivered, and you're 
>>> delivering them. If you sell an "unlimited" service, them's the breaks. 
>>> If you bill by usage, just send them their next bill showing all the 
>>> overages they incurred, and that probably will be an effective deterrent 
>>> all by itself. :)
>>>
>>> David Smith
>>> MVN.net
>>>
>>>
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