No it's not...I didn't mean it that way. At least there are some mountains or 
something to wirelessly backhaul to another place. Where I am at it's just 
hills and hills and then some more hills. The hills usually run in an average 
of height of 100' - 300' of each other. Once you find a way to go 20 miles you 
hit another hill thats 300' higher than you were. So you either build a 1000' 
tower and hope for the best or you put up 10 towers to go 50 miles, either get 
VERY expensive.

Scottie

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers


  Idaho isn't exactly a booming metropolis.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 9/2/2010 11:16 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: 
    Consider yourself lucky...in the REAL rural areas we pay over $1000/mth for 
6 meg connections.

    Scott
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Travis Johnson 
      To: WISPA General List 
      Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers


      I have two OC-3 connections (155Mbps) and one OC-12 connection 
(620Mbps)... and even at those levels, I still average $50/meg as my hard cost. 
I am selling 10Mbps x 10Mbps dedicated connections to businesses and schools, 
etc. for $500/month. 

      Travis
      Microserv


      On 9/1/2010 5:34 PM, Mike wrote: 
        I too would love to know that formula.  I doubt if it would work in 
rural Tama County Iowa.  Most businesses are agribusiness (i.e. farmers) and I 
already have most of them in my footprint.  My biggest obstacle right now is 
finding cheap bandwidth.  So even a statement that bandwidth is cheap right now 
does not apply to me.


        Friendly Regards,


        Mike



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        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
        Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:26 PM
        To: WISPA General List
        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers


        I wish I had $500/mth business customers to sign up everyday!
        Regards,

        Chuck



        On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

         Been there, done ALL of that. Not worth the headaches. Bandwidth is
        CHEAP now... time is still the most valuable thing in this business...

        I can spend hours messing, tweaking, fighting, adjusting, etc. a cache
        proxy, or in that same amount of time I can go install a business
        connection for $500/month and pay for ANY additional bandwidth it may
        save me. And I can do this every day. :)

        Travis
        Microserv



        On 9/1/2010 2:29 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
        > On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:14 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
        >
        >> Yes, but the bandwidth savings are not worth the headaches (another 
box or two to maintain, some sites don't like to be cached, customer support 
calls, web sites blocking a certain IP address because ALL the traffic from 
your network is coming from the cache server IP, etc.).
        > Its possible to prevent Squid from caching certain sites. Just create 
an ACL to deny caching them. Still too much to maintain? Deny caching all 
content by default, then create an ACL which only allows caching of sites you 
choose.
        >
        > If you don't want your proxy requests sourced from a single IP then 
use TProxy (http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/Tproxy4). With this your proxy 
can be fully transparent appearing as if the requests were sourced directly 
from a client instead of your Squid box.
        >
        > Get a Cisco router and redirect traffic to Squid using WCCP. If your 
Squid box dies the router automatically stops redirecting the traffic, and your 
users continue to surf the web normally.
        >
        > --
        > Blake Covarrubias
        >
        >
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