That might be my next step. Interesting though - a couple years ago, I
originally had a high end PC (for it's time - Athon 64 Dual-core X2 4200+
with 4GB of memory) running RouterOS. Swapped it out for a RB450G and in my
opinion, the little 450G kicked the PC's butt. So now I'm skeptical.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Jon Auer <[email protected]> wrote:

> We've built Supermicro 1U Atom boxes for under $600 to use as DNS servers.
> That was with 2x 2.5 inch hard drives.
> You'd probably run RouterOS off of a USB stick instead.
> That would save you around $120.
>
> Not much of a point to the RB1000 when a 1U Atom box is cheaper and
> can run rings around it in throughput.
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:31 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I love mine but only pushin 20Mbps peak. Then again it was only $700. How
> > much can you build the Atom unit for?
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  The RB1000 is not much of a router when under load. You can build a 1u
> >> ATOM based system for less money that has 4x the horsepower.
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> Microserv
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/8/2010 9:20 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> >> > So here is a nice ref. document from Cisco, pps rating on their
> >> > routers...
> >> >    Take a look at the PPS rating and the Max Mbps, (you still have to
> >> > consider Memory etc etc.).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf
> >> >
> >> > I am not aware of a similar document from Juniper, however one there
> >> > product brochure they do list pps performance number. Keep in mind
> they
> >> > do packet handling very different from CISCO, as such are able to
> handle
> >> > traffic better.
> >> >
> >> > Using Google, some sites show RB1000 is capable of doing 199,000 pps
> >> > with Connect track off... check the Cisco Chart... that is about
> 100Mbps
> >> > of traffic.
> >> >
> >> > I cannot find the PPS rating on RB1100... so if you know would love to
> >> > compare...
> >> >
> >> > Also, I would like to ask Dennis to let us know if he has any
> comparison
> >> > of what the PowerRouters can handle...
> >> >
> >> > Regards.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Faisal Imtiaz
> >> > Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 9/8/2010 9:56 PM, Francois Menard wrote:
> >> >> Even RB1100 ?
> >> >>
> >> >> That would be my choice. 399$ for 13 GigE ports...
> >> >>
> >> >> F.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 2010-09-08, at 8:53 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Non of the sub $1000 appliances will cut the mustard at 300-500meg
> of
> >> >>> traffic...  100meg no problem.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Faisal Imtiaz
> >> >>> Snappy Internet&   Telecom
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 9/8/2010 8:44 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
> >> >>>> vyatta has a $799 routing appliance that will work -
> >> >>>> pfsense - on hardware will do it for free - (what an amazing price)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> :-)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Welcome to the Mid-range of traffic handling...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> There is nothing on the market place that is affordable that will
> do
> >> >>>>> what you are looking for.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Best thing you can do is deploy two devices.. a Gig Switch, pick
> >> >>>>> your
> >> >>>>> favorite vendor... and a Core Router for BGP
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> For Core Router in the Cisco world you are looking at something
> with
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> G1 or G2 engine ... (7206vxr or small 7301) range $5k to 10K on
> the
> >> >>>>> used
> >> >>>>> market place.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> In Juniper Land... M10i or an M20 (if you like redundancy...) cost
> >> >>>>> on
> >> >>>>> the secondary markets about $8 to $10k
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> You could use a Mikrotik Power Router.. cost $ 2500 to $5000
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Only the Cisco 7301 and Mikrotik are small and consume little
> >> >>>>> power...
> >> >>>>> Everything else is big and consumes power.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Most common, cost efficient network design would be to use GigE
> >> >>>>> Switches
> >> >>>>> in a ring or your favorite network topology, with one or two
> Routers
> >> >>>>> located at DataCenters or NOC...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> If you find some other solution, that can do what you are looking
> >> >>>>> for,
> >> >>>>> please share it with us, cause we have been looking too... what I
> am
> >> >>>>> sharing above with you is what we have found so far.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Regards.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
> >> >>>>> Snappy Internet&   Telecom
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 9/8/2010 7:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer
> 3
> >> >>>>>> switches...
> >> >>>>>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition
> to
> >> >>>>>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
> >> >>>>>> greater you aren't going to find that.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE
> ports.
> >> >>>>>> You
> >> >>>>>> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has
> >> >>>>>> been
> >> >>>>>> known to do.
> >> >>>>>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3
> switch
> >> >>>>>> at
> >> >>>>>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
> >> >>>>>> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
> >> >>>>>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
> >> >>>>>> router/route reflector.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems
> like
> >> >>>>>> the most straightforward solution to me.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Jenkins<[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000
> base-T
> >> >>>>>>> ports
> >> >>>>>>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have
> >> >>>>>>> any
> >> >>>>>>> suggestions?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> For those who wonder why.... I am upgrading all of my backhauls
> to
> >> >>>>>>> support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP
> >> >>>>>>> connections
> >> >>>>>>> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> - Matt
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
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