That's not realistically possible.  You would have to be extraordinarily
lucky to align that first dish without having any measurements.

Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Nash <markl...@uwol.net> wrote:

>  (sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I think
> it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post)
>
> I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd trip to the first tower.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
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> You would need more people then.  You can't align the dish without both
> radios being powered.
>
> You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site.  Both install at the same
> time and they should finish around the same time frame.  Align before coming
> down at all.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Greg Ihnen <os10ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in
>> magnetic compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the
>> binoculars to find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then
>> point the dish there?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>   On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
>>
>>    Question:  What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a
>> ptp without having a visual on the other side?
>>
>> Details:
>>
>> When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different times.
>>
>> The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other
>> end.
>>
>> We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.
>>
>> Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge.  Azimuth is a different
>> story.  If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no big deal, but
>> what if you can't?
>>
>>  We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months, and
>> we have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year.
>>
>>
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