The phone app will also run LOS profiles between your location and a chosen
tower...FYI.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:

> WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any
> of the towers in your database from your current location and plot it for
> you on a map. We are toying with making the app available for a small price
> to the general public, but it will need some mods so you can enter your
> tower locations manually and store them in a local file/db on the phone. Hit
> me offlist if you are interested and we'll try to get it out quicker if
> there is a big show of hands.
>
> Regards,
>
> Cameron
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've never put a dish up half together.  I've always seen it done putting
>> everything together then hoisting it up.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Tom DeReggi 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  Actually not true in many cases.
>>> If the distance is really long beyond site, such as 20-30miles, I'd
>>> agree. But if say LOS within 10 miles or so on a clear day, its pretty easy.
>>>
>>> After our tech eye balls the alignment, I'll usually have the tech do a
>>> fine align just in case we can improve it. BUt 9 out of 10 times, it was
>>> not necessary and maybe we'll gain a half DB.
>>>
>>> The secret to aligning dishes is to look through the feed hole before the
>>> feed is screwed in. (for example PAC wireless parabolic dish). You then home
>>> in on the far side area aiming for, positionioned in cetner of hole, and
>>> make sure the Ring around the hole appears equal size all around to verify
>>> it is aligned.  Because the hole has metal around it that has DEPTH, maybe
>>> 1/4-1/2 inch, you can see the depth of this inside surface all around the
>>> hole.
>>>
>>> As matter of fact, if we dont get our link budget acheieve and we need to
>>> trouble shoot why, we check cables first, because the odds of having a bad
>>> cable is higher than the tech getting the first alignment attempt wrong.
>>>
>>> Panels are harder to align, because looking from the side.
>>>
>>> Sure it can be harder to align a big dish with radome that does not have
>>> a removable feed.
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
>>>
>>> That's not realistically possible.  You would have to be extraordinarily
>>> lucky to align that first dish without having any measurements.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Nash <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  (sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I
>>>> think it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post)
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd trip to the first tower.
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>> *To:* WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>>  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
>>>>
>>>>  You would need more people then.  You can't align the dish without
>>>> both radios being powered.
>>>>
>>>> You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site.  Both install at the
>>>> same time and they should finish around the same time frame.  Align before
>>>> coming down at all.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Greg Ihnen <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in
>>>>> magnetic compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the
>>>>> binoculars to find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then
>>>>> point the dish there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>    Question:  What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of
>>>>> a ptp without having a visual on the other side?
>>>>>
>>>>> Details:
>>>>>
>>>>> When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different
>>>>> times.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other
>>>>> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge.  Azimuth is a
>>>>> different story.  If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no big
>>>>> deal, but what if you can't?
>>>>>
>>>>>  We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months,
>>>>> and we have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year.
>>>>>
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