That is way cool, to have that much "real" redundancy in a router. How big is Big?
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS > Tom, > > I agree that Linux works very well as a router, but it still doesn't > compare to a dedicated hardware platform (like Cisco) that was built > from the ground up to do nothing but routing. We purchased a used Cisco > 12008 router about 1.5 years ago off ebay. They are very, very cheap... > the only downside is they are BIG and require 240VAC. But it's way cool > to pull the CPU card while the router is moving 500Mbps of traffic and > have it not even miss a single ping (due to the redundant CPU card). > Same goes for the route fabric card. ;) > > We use Mikrotik for our inside "core" router and this big Cisco for our > border router to our BGP upstreams. I have slept very well for the last > 1.5 years knowing everything in the box is fully redundant (CPU, route, > power, etc.). :) > > Travis > Microserv > > > On 11/2/2010 9:04 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> Note: Quagga has been very reliable for quite some time now. Imagestream >> and >> Vyatta both use Quagga. Both are great choices for BGP routers. >> >> I personally use Mandrake (Mandriva) Linux with a slew of custom >> modifications that we have made, loaded on SuperMicro, and then use >> latest >> Quagga. >> That has worked well for us, the last 5 years. (although, I dont >> recommend >> that to someone, until they are vastly familiar with their distro of >> Linux. >> Last thing you want to do is use your BGP router for a Guinee Pig Science >> project, rebooting it all the time to test script changes.) But once you >> are >> comfortable with your Distro, it works well. >> >> There are a million arguements "for" and "against" Cisco versus Linux, to >> be >> used for the ISPs' average NOC/POP router/switch. I dont dispute any of >> the >> arguements. But one area where I believe Linux stands tall, is as a CORE >> BGP >> router. A core BGP router can be one of the more simplistic configured >> routers because it only really needs to perform one function, BGP routing >> to >> its connected peers. For BGP there are two critical needs.... Fast >> processors and Lots of RAM. In todays world there is no excuse to not >> have >> both of those. The problem with Cisco is that it lacks both, unless you >> pay >> big bucks. Linux on the other hand has an abundance of both, when >> combined >> with PC-Like hardware. >> >> I laugh at my competitors, when they say, "oh no, BGP reset, had to >> reload >> BGP tables, now there is latency for like 3 minutes or compromised >> routing >> for that period" or "got a route problem, the small prefixes aren't in my >> tables". . On Linux, if you want to restart BGP, well thats like 1 second >> to >> reload tables. And no need to drop any routes, unless you want to. You >> could >> have Full routes with like 30 peers from a single router, if you wanted >> to. >> You can load up Linux with like 32 NICs (qty8 4port GIG NICs) in a 2U >> case, >> if you want to, and dont even need a Switch. (Although new will cost you >> about $430 per 4port PCI-E Gig NIC). >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kristian Hoffmann"<kh...@fire2wire.com> >> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS >> >> >>> On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: >>> >>>> I still need to try a Vyatta system. >>> I loathe the idea of managing a *nix distro on a router (which is why we >>> use RouterOS now). Apparently I've had too much Tik-aid, because I had >>> completely forgotten about Vyatta and similar options. >>> >>> I have a SuperMicro 5015A-H (Atom 330 dual-core) coming in tomorrow. >>> I'm going to try RouterOS and Vyatta and see how BGP responds on each >>> with a single feed. If anyone else has an x86-based distro they'd like >>> to see performance on, let me know. >>> >>> And thanks for all the responses. The information has been very >>> helpful. Unfortunately, the conclusion I came to is "I have no idea >>> what I'm going to do." Cisco = $$$ and MikroTik = coin flip. Hopefully >>> Vyatta lands somewhere in the middle. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Kristian >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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