I'll hazard a guess here that Radwin was OEMing boxes from Ceragon at the time then. That's like me complaining about Redline if I had problems with Alvarion's old "Link Blaster", which was an OEM'd Redline point-to-point product. If I bought it from Alvarion and didn't get support, then it's Alvarion's problem, not Redline's. (For the record here, we were perfectly happy with the Link Blaster-just using that as an example). It wouldn't be right or fair for me to sling mud at Redline for it, especially *years* later.
We all get a bug up our butts about something or another, but I think its bad practice if nothing else to go out of your way to hurt a company you never even bought anything from (remember, your main problem was with the "zero support", which was a Radwin issue, not a Ceragon issue) when those of us who actually have experience buying from the company seem to be quite happy. Either way, your experience was from years ago. We all know companies go through problems at times. If they fix them, great. If not, they'll pay the price in the marketplace. And if you had current, direct experiences to report, that's useful information. But it's worth it to give even companies that have messed up a chance to prove they can fix themselves. I'd defend Redline the same way if the circumstances were similar. Chuck On Nov 5, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Says Ceragon on the boxes. > > They appear identical in hardware and software to the Radwins we bought with > the company. Just FYI. > On Nov 5, 2010 12:03 AM, "Chuck Bartosch" <ch...@clarityconnect.com> wrote: >> To be honest Josh, didn't you tell me your problems were with what was at > one time a sister company, Radwin, and not Ceragon? Yet you call the company > "Ceragon" when you've told me it was really Radwin. It really isn't fair to > be tarring and feathering Ceragon due to the problems with Radwin-which was > years ago and not even the same company. >> >> Ceragon products in the licensed sphere are _strictly_ Ceragon designed > and manufactured (I followed up on this the last time you were panning > Ceragon so I could independently understand the situation). They are not > even OEM'd from Radwin. Ceragon is an independent, publicly traded company. > It was *started*, years ago by the same investment group that started > Radwin. >> >> For the record, we've been quite happy with Ceragon's products. The > interface hasn't been a problem, but like Brad, I believe we tend to use the > telnet interface. I've also been happy with Alvarion and Ubiquity in the > unlicensed space. I have no personal interest in any of these companies, but > don't think it's fair to malign a manufacturer when you don't actually have > any experience with them as far as I can tell. When you did have problems it > was with a related company, not this company, it was years ago (things DO > change), and this company at least is no longer even a "sister" company (in > the sense at least that it is now publicly traded). >> >> Chuck >> >> On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> The air must be different there. I can't stand Ceragon stuff. Nothing but >>> problems. Zero support. The firmware is terrible as is the interface. >>> On Nov 4, 2010 9:58 PM, "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com> wrote: >>>> Agreed. We have had Ser# 00000001 11GHz Trango GigaLINK in service since >>> early 2008 among several others since then with great service. The few > times >>> we’ve needed Trango support they have been extremely responsive and > helpful. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think we also have one of the first if not the first 18GHz GigaLINK in >>> service too since mid 2007. We’ll be hanging three more Trango Giga’s & >>> Apex’s in the next few weeks. We have always been early adopters of >>> Sunstream/Trango equipment. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We have DragonWave, BridgeWave, Trango, DMC, Ceragon and PCOM licensed >>> gear deployed and active in 6GHz, 11GHz, 18GHz, 23GHz, 38GHz and 70-80GHz > on >>> our network. By far the Trango, BridgeWave and Ceragon links are our >>> favorites. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Brad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:21 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We use Trango GigaLinks almost exclusively in our network; 6ghz, 11ghz, >>> 18ghz, and 23ghz. They work very well & support thus far has been great. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Blake Covarrubias >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2010, at 14:43, "Nick Olsen" <n...@brevardwireless.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've worked with a few of the Trango Apex 11ghz links. Running 256QAM > they >>> will do ~258Mb/s full duplex, or something like that. >>>> .8 to 1ms across it, With 10Mb/s or 200Mb/s of traffic on it. So far, >>> They've been the best links I've had the pleasure of working with. In > terms >>> of performance, And management. >>>> >>>> Nick Olsen >>>> Network Operations >>>> >>>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>>> >>>> <http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _____ >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "David E. Smith" <d...@mvn.net> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:32 PM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 16:20, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> We are looking at upgrading our network and adding a handful(7) 11ghz >>>> licensed hops. What gear out there can use both horizontal and >>>> vertical at once to increase throughput? We are currently considering >>>> Exalt. Short coming of 11 ghz and longish 25 mile hops is throughput. >>>> We do not need a lot of bandwidth at the start but would like to be >>>> ready to if needed. This will replace a couple DS3 circuits. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How much throughput do you need? Trango's Apex gear can, if you have big >>> enough antennas and pay for the licensing (both FCC and for Trango's >>> software), do something like 300Mbps. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> David Smith >>>> >>>> MVN.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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