Actually, I feel one of the flaws to the Dragonwave is that their clips to the 
antenna easilly can break if not careful when connecting them.
Trango's are much more durable. (actually I'm not talking about the clips, but 
the metal-like part  that the clips grab). On Andrews these parts are on the 
antenna side, on Trango they are on the radio side.
You can however, buy a replacement plate for the antenna, if they break.

But with that said, my 23Ghz Dragonwave Horizon link has been wonderful, I've 
never touched it since the day installed, works perfrect.
My 24Gzh dragonwave on the other hand, has been a bit more temporamental. I've 
never gotten full RSSI out of it that path calcs show I should, so run at 50mb 
instead of 100mb to get quality link, and I have to reboot it every 6 months or 
so, when it stops passing traffic. We stopped investigating why at somepoint, 
because it was good enough for the application.  I'm not meaning to bash DW 
24Ghz, I've just used one link, so it could be an isolated case. Not enough 
links to have large enough sampling, to ahve a valid opinion.  (note, I'm aware 
polarity orientation gets reverse on the opposite side with the DW 24G model)

Personally, I think the "relationship factor" is becomming a bigger factor to 
what product to buy. I think its important to buy Licensed products from a 
supplier that you have a good relationship with, and what they stock more of.  
When in a bind, who's gonna overnbight you a radio, without charging you 
inflated list price? (I'll leave it to the buyer, to determine who they have a 
good relationship with)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Moldashel 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops


  Ceragon today is NOT the same Ceragon it was 3 years ago.  

  Unlike many here when it comes to choosing equipment I don't chase the price 
point.  I look at who supplies the outstanding support.  I look for the company 
that has my back when I am up against the wall with a dead link.

  And until someone can blow away their delivery schedule and their 
technical/customer support, Dragonwave is my company of choice for licensed 
microwave. Radio clips to the antenna, POE, simple interface, easy equipment 
replacement.  

  And most importantly.....  the sh*t works!  

  I can't remember EVER needing to do a firmware upgrade on a Dragonwave radio 
to make it work right. I can't say that for many of the other manufacturers and 
I have installed a lot of different equipment over the years.

  -B-



  On 11/4/2010 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
    The air must be different there.  I can't stand Ceragon stuff.  Nothing but 
problems.  Zero support.  The firmware is terrible as is the interface.

    On Nov 4, 2010 9:58 PM, "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com> wrote:
    > Agreed. We have had Ser# 00000001 11GHz Trango GigaLINK in service since 
early 2008 among several others since then with great service. The few times 
we’ve needed Trango support they have been extremely responsive and helpful. 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > I think we also have one of the first if not the first 18GHz GigaLINK in 
service too since mid 2007. We’ll be hanging three more Trango Giga’s & Apex’s 
in the next few weeks. We have always been early adopters of Sunstream/Trango 
equipment.
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > We have DragonWave, BridgeWave, Trango, DMC, Ceragon and PCOM licensed 
gear deployed and active in 6GHz, 11GHz, 18GHz, 23GHz, 38GHz and 70-80GHz on 
our network. By far the Trango, BridgeWave and Ceragon links are our favorites.
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Best,
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Brad
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias
    > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:21 PM
    > To: WISPA General List
    > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > We use Trango GigaLinks almost exclusively in our network; 6ghz, 11ghz, 
18ghz, and 23ghz. They work very well & support thus far has been great.
    > 
    > 
    > --
    > 
    > Blake Covarrubias
    > 
    > 
    > On Nov 4, 2010, at 14:43, "Nick Olsen" <n...@brevardwireless.com> wrote:
    > 
    > I've worked with a few of the Trango Apex 11ghz links. Running 256QAM 
they will do ~258Mb/s full duplex, or something like that.
    > .8 to 1ms across it, With 10Mb/s or 200Mb/s of traffic on it. So far, 
They've been the best links I've had the pleasure of working with. In terms of 
performance, And management.
    > 
    > Nick Olsen
    > Network Operations 
    > 
    > (855) FLSPEED x106
    > 
    > <http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg> 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > _____ 
    > 
    > 
    > From: "David E. Smith" <d...@mvn.net>
    > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:32 PM
    > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
    > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 16:20, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > 
    > We are looking at upgrading our network and adding a handful(7) 11ghz
    > licensed hops. What gear out there can use both horizontal and
    > vertical at once to increase throughput? We are currently considering
    > Exalt. Short coming of 11 ghz and longish 25 mile hops is throughput.
    > We do not need a lot of bandwidth at the start but would like to be
    > ready to if needed. This will replace a couple DS3 circuits.
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > How much throughput do you need? Trango's Apex gear can, if you have big 
enough antennas and pay for the licensing (both FCC and for Trango's software), 
do something like 300Mbps. 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > David Smith
    > 
    > MVN.net
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
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