The berries would be 3.65 if the price came down to reasonable.

But then again, once the white space gear comes online..............  2.4 will 
be moot.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

Airmax beats up on all legacy 802.11,gonna be tuff on 2.4 with all the vendors 
pushing it. :( Sent from my BlackBerry®

-----Original Message-----
From: "Robert West" <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:19:57
To: 'WISPA General List'<[email protected]>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

I always make sure I have DFS enabled.  Stupid not to, IMO.  As far as Joe Blow 
home dweller.........  that's why I've been trying to stick to 5GHz for the 
"Free' spectrum.  I can certainly see lots of idiotic messes if trying to use 
Auto channel in 2.4!  YIKES!!!!  

Had an issue about a week ago........  Hotel I do the wireless network for.  
Not working, keeps dropping out.........  Made that 2 hour drive just to find 
not one but TWO wisps  (They were not there the last time I had to do a call, 2 
years ago!  HA!)     breathing down their necks with..........  yes............ 
  AUTO CHANNEL.  Ummmmm.......  Same as me!  (gulp)

It was a big fight, turned off Auto channel and it got better.  Not great but 
better.  But at least it worked.  So with that, I humbly concede to your point.


Bob-



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

As well.... AUTO select can be like the DEVIL, when a product is sold in volume 
and at low cost affordable by end users.
The reason is that AUTO is selfish. All it cares about is the health of its own 
link. It has no way to learn how it impacts the health of another's radio.
The last thing a WISP wants is self imposed self interference, and not know its 
even occuring, because its automatic behind hte scenes.

So... then comes addition of specifiying what channels are available to hop to, 
so that a WISP can de-select the channels that the WISP is already using at the 
cell site, to prevent a radio from hopping onto the channel of another AP.

But problem still not solved because, the problem is not the WISP, its all the 
Harry Home owner people who think they are a tech, and leave AUTO on by 
default. SO now, Harry home owner randomly interfers with WISPs all day long. 
Not just on one channel, but it randomly hops to interfere with all the 
channels. And the WISP is helpless to engineer around the problem, because 
HArry Homeowner radio keeps changing channels shortly after fixed, to create a 
problem on a different channel.

"AUTO channel Hopping" should be illegal.

With that said, FCC law requires it for DFS support.  That is.... hopping off 
radar channel.
If "Auto" channel selection is an ehancement that will assist using DFS more 
reliably, well then I say good job in adding it, one more step towards progress 
of FCC certifiabilty..
One day it would be nice, if UBNT can be legal at 5.3 and 5.4.  DFS enabled 
really does need abilty to define the channels that can be included or excluded 
from the hopping.




Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel


>I don't believe auto channel is intelligent, or changes based on any 
>criteria, it just randomly picks a channel. I'm not sure it should help 
>with your throughput. I've got a post open on their forum to try and 
>determine exactly how the "auto" selection under frequency selection works.
>In my lab it doesn't ever change no matter what kind of signal I throw 
>at it, it just stays fixed on some random channel it picks after 
>selection of the option.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert West" <[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:25:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
> Eastern
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
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> I’d add that because of this, I was able to reduce a 40MHz link down 
> to a
> 20 and a few 20’s down to 10 and still keep my throughput.
>
>
>
> I just can’t argue with that.
>
>
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>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:43 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
>
>
>
> The 5.3 Beta 2 does. I leave AirSelect off but set the channel to AUTO 
> with Obey Regulatory rules checked.
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>
> Bob-
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>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:49 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
>
>
>
> I wasn't aware they had an auto frequency ability. ----- Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> On 11/10/2010 7:32 PM, Robert West wrote:
>
> FYI…………
>
>
>
> I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale 
> deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes 
> channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random 
> interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my 
> frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge 
> with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried 
> the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all 
> over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a 
> simple AUTO channel…………. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. 
> My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average 
> -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a 
> WIN!
>
>
>
> As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J
>
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>
> Just sharing.
>
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>
> Me-
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