Thanks.  It's not old.  It's just years.  I've been a ham for about 60
years and ran 25 yearly Marathons until 5 years ago (overcoming having
been in an iron lung at the end of WWII and deciding to fix it...
finally).  

When I start talking about grandkids or pets...please stop me.  I hate
that.

But, if I had it to do all over, I'd start with being a WISPA member and
setting up RF links all over again.  Getting your hands dirty aiming an
antenna, stringing cable...it's wonderful.  Climbing 1,700 foot
towers...maybe not.  Getting mud on a customer's carpet...definitely not.
Watching a link come up solid...definitely!

. . . j o n a t h a n
W8BZB

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:47 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

You rock, by the way.

Good or bad, who knows...............!



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:41 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

Yep.  We're both  O L D

Happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:38 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

Thanks, Robert, as I said..."...some years ago."  It was probably 10 years
ago or more when it was a Bay/Nortel pre-802.11 Wi-Fi.  I sold my company
to
them 5 years before that.

Anyway, at that time, everything was new and old-time trouble shooting was
useful.  

We used to trouble shoot computers when we were using the discrete version
of the 8008 (which we hired Intel and TI to make into a chip) by Radio
Shack
transistor radios placed at strategic points over the main board (now
called
"Motherboard").  That was 1969-1970.  We had used early versions of that
architecture in the '60s for message switching controllers.

Anyway, if you can get something into your ear that represents what's
happening, it's often a real help even if you don't have a Fast Fourier
transform built in because I've found that our brains tend to do that.

. . . j o n a t h a n
W8BZB 



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:13 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

An FM radio?

You seem to be as weird as I.  We both have no life.

:(



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

I had a CFL that looked dead but was hot.  It was knocking out all the
802.11 in the house.
That was some years ago but found it by walking the house with an FM radio
tuned to a weak station.
It was clear when I was within a couple feet that it was the cause...when
I
reached up to see if it was loose...it was HOT!

. . . J o n a t h a n

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

A couple of years ago I had a customer who would drop signal all the time.
One day when I was there pulling my hair out I noticed every time her
furnace kicked on the signal dropped.  Either the motor or the electronics
was creating some nasty RF.  

Bob-


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

I had e-mailed the customer last week to have her turn off anything she
knew
was wireless.  I received an e-mail yesterday saying that she had and
still
did not work.
One of the routers that had been at her house and did not work has been
deployed elsewhere and is working fine.
I am going to try to get there late this week and see what I can figure
out.
I do know that it is not 802.11 that is interfering as my laptop did not
see
any other APs.

On 12/1/2010 3:33 PM, Jason Hensley wrote:
> I'm curious if this ever got fixed and what the cause was?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month
>
> Look for an internal wireless system that's drowning out the AP.
>
> Think x10 camera or other similar system.
>
> Do you have a spectrum analyzer that you can look with?
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Reed"<[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:26 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Weird one of the month
>
>
>> Help.
>> I sent a Trendnet 432 SOHO wireless router with the installer to a 
>> customer.  He hooked it up, couldn't connect.  Does not show in list 
>> of available APs on his laptop or the customer's laptop.  Must be DOA.
>> Send another one. Customer not home so installer left it.  Fine, 
>> customer can hook it up.  Customer calls, can't make it work.  I stop 
>> in and it doesn't show up on my laptop or her laptop.  Two of them 
>> DOA seems unlikely, but ...
>> I setup another one.  Take it to customer house. Can't see it.  Moved 
>> it to another room.  Still doesn't show up.  Get my laptop.  Same
thing.
>> Now I am sure it is something else because I don't have 3 DOA units.
>> Haven't had that many in 4 years or whatever it is of using these.
>> I just setup the second one on the test bench.  It is working fine.
>> Connected with my laptop and passes traffic just like it should.
>> What do I need to look for at the customer house that would make 3 
>> routers not show up on multiple computers when doing a scan for 
>> wireless networks?
>>
>> --
>> Scott Reed
>> Owner
>> NewWays Networking, LLC
>> Wireless Networking
>> Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced 
>> Certified www.nwwnet.net
>> (765) 855-1060
>>
>>
>>
>>
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