I have a zimbra setup and it runs just fine... 
not sure what you are seeing - but interesting to know... 

and yes - that short rope I think you are right.

On Dec 15, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> The problem is that ProxMox has nowhere near the enterprise class feature set 
> of VMWare.
> 
> Also, both KVM and OpenVZ have incompatibilities with certain Java 
> applications.  Zimbra, for instance, on OpenVZ it has a memory bug and on KVM 
> it has a CPU usage bug.
> 
> Personally, anyone who codes an email server in Java needs to meet the short 
> end of a long rope.
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> On 12/15/2010 2:08 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
>> 
>> I have found vmware to be a nightmare in many instances.
>> In others I absolutely love it. 
>> 
>> Check out the opensource project called ProxMox. 
>> 
>> It allows you to run containers as well as KVM instances - and has tons and 
>> tons of template machines (including the ability to use any VMWare one. 
>> http://proxmox.org/products/proxmox-ve
>> 
>> We have tons of templates from Cacti, WHMCS, cPanel, Zimbra, PRoxMox 
>> AntiSpam and others - well worth the testing 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> 
>>> Great thing about ESXi is that its footprint is so small. It uses like 300k 
>>> of memory and you can run it from a USB thumbdrive and all the storage is 
>>> simply virtual machines.
>>>  
>>> EUREKA!
>>>  
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts
>>>  
>>> That's for premier.  You want partner, like an ISP.  Someone said like a 
>>> dollar forty?
>>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>>> > On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per 
>>> > year
>>> > (that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's pretty pricey to 
>>> > me.
>>> > People complain about the price of our software which does a ton of stuff 
>>> > at
>>> > less than $1/month/sub.
>>> > 
>>> > Cameron
>>> > 
>>> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> >> > Great stuff...can't say enough good about VMware and their support. 
>>> >> > Dell
>>> >> > support has been fantastic too.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think Redhat uses KVM?
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/server/
>>> >>
>>> >> Imagine it will work its way into CentOS soon. How does it compare to
>>> >> VMware?
>>> >>
>>> >>
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