I know Axxcelera is planning LTE equipment in the 3.65 ghz band this year. It is cost effective to deploy to businesses in an Internet/VoIP setup but will not make it to the residential market at anything that will make money because the cpe's run in the 300.00 range.
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2011, at 3:58 PM, "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote: > yes +1, but WISPs can only upgrade if there is a product to upgrade to. > > No one wants to upgrade without accomplishing enough compensation or gain to > match the effort and cost. > > The industry has done a very good job at getting the price down on typical > style WISP gear. > But I'm not confident that the industry has done all it could to innovate > and release state of the art radios at the same price as the old ones? > > Lets look at the PC industry and Intel CPUs... Each year the speed > capability has exponentially increased. After one year a computer is > considered outdated to the dark ages. > > In the Radio industry, I can use a radio I bought 10 years ago, and it > performs almost as good as the neweest model, or no less than a 50% > degregation. > > Comparing the radio industry to the PC industry, the radio industry's > performance/innovation growth rate is light years behind the PC industry. > > The radio industry is still caught up on being proud of what they can > accomplish in a lab. But they are not working hard enough to deliver for > real world competitive and technical challenges. > > A perfect example is MIMO. The fact is... Noise will always exist and always > be unpredictable. MIMO has been a reality for two years now. Everyone is > happy with basic mode 1-16 MIMO. But in the real world its common for one > polarity to have more noise than the 90deg different polarity. Why run both > chains at the lower modulation of the noisiest channel, compromising the > overall speed? Just that problem alone, if solved, would yield a 30% > increase in throughput out n the real world, to bring real world deployments > closer to lab capabilty. MIMO modes above 16, were in the spec for years. > Why aren't they being developed? > > Are we all going to have to buy LTE chipsets radios and modify them for > unlciensed to be competitive? > > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappydsl.net> > To: <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>; "WISPA General List" > <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:35 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update > > >> +1 >> >> very well said.. to the point !... >> Innovate / Upgrade to keep up with the demand or become obsolete and >> irrelevant. ! >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "The WISP's themselves will need to keep business plans >> that take advantage of emerging technologies and allow themselves to >> remain >> continually competitive. This means factoring in an aggressive upgrade and >> replacement path which will allow for market adaptability. This will also >> need to include marketing methodologies to keep their image up and to show >> that there is not stagnation with the company and its offerings." >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet& Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, Fl 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net >> >> >> On 4/5/2011 9:04 AM, Brian Webster wrote: >>> I have always said the cellular carriers have the over the air interface >>> to >>> deliver good speeds for the most part. It's their backhaul network that >>> needs work and they are slowly and steadily upgrading that. While most >>> are >>> bashing them, they eventually will have upgraded the sites to remain >>> competitive. They are far from perfect but once they finally have true >>> Ethernet transport to every site, their performance will improve a lot >>> over >>> all digital modes they offer. They are and will continue to be a player >>> in >>> the broadband world. Best for WISP's to keep an eye on what they are >>> doing >>> and keep the pace with the overall broadband market changes. Fortunately >>> it >>> seems that the fixed wireless technology has kept the pace and/or >>> exceeded >>> other technologies. The WISP's themselves will need to keep business >>> plans >>> that take advantage of emerging technologies and allow themselves to >>> remain >>> continually competitive. This means factoring in an aggressive upgrade >>> and >>> replacement path which will allow for market adaptability. This will also >>> need to include marketing methodologies to keep their image up and to >>> show >>> that there is not stagnation with the company and its offerings. >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Brian Webster >>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Charles Wu >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:37 AM >>> To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update >>> >>> It's generally known that the 20 Mb "burst" given by cable companies is >>> throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range >>> >>> That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come >>> so >>> far for mobile cellular data that we are now "unconsciously" comparing it >>> side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it >>> this >>> way, how many WISPs can deliver "up-to" speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power >>> handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) >>> >>> -Charles >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband >>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:33 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update >>> >>> I just checked my Charter via Ookla and it said I was getting 20 Mbps >>> down >>> and 1 Mbps up, horse pucky. >>> I only get that in speedtests and never when I have to upload or download >>> a >>> big file via FTP or whatever. >>> It generally gets throttled to dial up speeds or worse. >>> >>> ~V~ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Charles Wu >>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:21 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update >>> >>> Sitting in my living room at 8 pm....3 bars, laptop connected to wireless >>> router on phone >>> >>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1236758959.png >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:39 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW >>> >>> Yeah, its nice when a product is brand new, and you get the whole sector >>> all >>> >>> to yourself. >>> >>> I guess, its amazing that you are getting the speed to a handset, without >>> the big antenna outside. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Charles Wu"<c...@cticonnect.com> >>> To:<paolo.difrance...@level7.it>; "WISPA GeneralList"<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW >>> >>> >>>> It is my understanding that Verizon is deploying an FDD version of LTE >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:09 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW >>>> >>>> most of the test are "half duplex" tests. In few words, they do one >>>> direction, then the other direction (e.g. first the customer download, >>>> then the customer upload). >>>> >>>> Suppose you have a 10Mb half duplex: the test will tell you that you >>>> have 10Mb in one direction and 10Mb in the other direction. Then you use >>>> the connection in 10Mb full duplex and you will discover the story is >>>> totally different ;) >>>> >>>> Also, yes it's interesting to see what is happening on the network >>>> interface when the test is running... >>>> >>>>> Do a real test and report back, like FTP. 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