The authors are paid either way. Doesn't matter if 1 or a million copies are sold. Can't feel bad for them as they aren't directly effected. That is publicized falsely.
Stealing a car by comparison is different...the original owner still has it and completely without change. Do I think it is wrong to hurt the media companies? Yes. But that doesn't mean what they do is all peaches and cream. Terrible contracts with cable/satellite and Netflix drive consumers to go the easier way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 17, 2011 7:10 PM, "Butch Evans" <but...@butchevans.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 17:41 -0500, Fred Goldstein wrote: > > Some of these proposals create a presumption of guilt, the burden of > > proof to prove one's innocence. And some put more onus on the ISP > > than before, no small issue. The copyright lobby does not like the > > Internet at all. It breaks their artifact-based business model. > > This is, unfortunately, one of the costs for ISPs who NAT their customer > traffic. When all users have a public IP (say, an IPv6 address), then > the problem of identifying thieves would be much simpler and can be > easily identified by the ISP AND law enforcement. > > > There's also a question of what constitutes "theft", vs. other > > copyright violations. Literal theft refers to rivalrous goods: If I > > steal the dish off of your tower, I have the dish, you > > don't. So-called theft of so-called intellectual property -- more > > accurately, simply the violation of copyright -- does not deprive the > > legitimate owner of their property, it merely deprives the seller of > > the *opportunity cost* of the sale that was not made. Which in most > > cases, frankly, would not have been made. > > SO, if you owned a Ford dealership and I came onto your lot and used one > of your vehicles, it wouldn't be theft since I would never purchase that > car anyway? What a stupid argument. > > > So there's a real spread between true piracy and some of the casual > > copyright violations that are being called piracy. True piracy is the > > crook who counterfeits a CD and sells it as real, or sells a > > counterfeit software DVD-ROM as the real thing. > > So downloading a movie without paying the author/owner (who IS selling > that movie) is not piracy? You really are as good as my first > impression of you lead me to believe. > > > But some of these copyright extremists want to put you in jail for > > having the radio on in a YouTube home movie (they've issued takedowns > > to "look at our toddler dance, isn't she cute" videos). Just to give > > an example, my son just had a college class (TV production) > > assignment to make a music video. So he had to take a copyrighted > > record and use it. (Hey, I was the star! We filmed at Occupy > > Boston.) In class, it's no doubt Fair Use, though I suspect the RIAA > > wishes that weren't the case. Is he a pirate if he posts it on > > YouTube? I think not, but the RIAA probably does. But somehow I > > don't equate that to the guys selling fake CDs to record store owners. > > "Fair Use" is defined by the owner of the content. Note that "owner" is > NOT the person who purchased a CD. > > > In other words, intellectual property law is a confused mess already, > > and the proposals on the table just make it worse, and won't actualy > > help the industries they're trying to help. They're like ILECs, who > > harm ISPs because it's what they do, even if it costs them. The > > scorpion and the frog comes to mind. > > Adding still more laws is that I said was a problem. Glad you had a > place to rant, though. > > -- > ******************************************************************** > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation * > * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * > * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * > * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * > ******************************************************************** > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >
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