I agree it sounds like noise.  

Mikrotik has an SA as well but isn't supported on all cards.  

/interface wireless spectral-scan or in the dude under tools.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

To me, that really sounds like interference.  Don't look at the noise
floor.  Get a UBNT in spectrum analyzer mode, and let it run for a
little bit.  I bet you find something bleeding over the frequency.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 7:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

Update after more work today.
Replaced all the electronics at one end early this morning.  No real
change.
Replace the cable and antenna at that end this afternoon.  When we got
there the link was running with RSSI of around 67/70 and CCQ in the 50's

both ways.  Aligned the antenna and I watch the stats for a while while
the climber we getting the old antenna off of the tower.  Signal
strength went to around 57/65 and quality was running in the high 80s to

mid 90s.  Thought it was fixed.  Climber finished attaching new cable to

tower as he came down.  When He got to the bottom I checked things
again.  Signals are 67/70 and CCQ is all over the place.  I have seen
the CCQ jump from 90 to 14 at least once this evening.  It didn't drop
the link at 14, rather it climbed back up to nearly 80 and then dropped.
I am at a complete loss as to what is going on.
Oh, the last time I looked, noise floor was around -100 so SNR is
running 30 to 40.

On 1/29/2012 10:16 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
> Planned for tomorrow.
>
> On 1/29/2012 10:04 PM, Daniel White wrote:
>> Maybe your replacement hardware is bad too.  Have you tried another
set?
>>
>> Daniel White
>> (303) 746-3590
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On
>> Behalf Of Scott Reed
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:19 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
>>
>> One end is just us and the 4 other links there are fine.
>> The other is is us and at least 2 other WISPS, an FM repeater
station, some
>> public service repeaters, some commercial 2-way repeaters and ...
>> Just looking at the tower, I don't think there is anything new, but I
will
>> ask the tower owner tomorrow.
>> We changed everything at one end and all but the cable at the other.
>> Other 5GHz links we have for either tower do not show symptoms of 
>> interference, but that does not mean that isn't our problem.
>>
>> On 1/28/2012 8:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
>>> If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of
the
>> 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via
the
>> power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower?
>>> Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try
both
>> ends?
>>> Have you done any spectral analysis?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has
me
>>>> stumped.
>>>> RB433AH with XR5 at each end.
>>>> Signals running around -69/-71.  CCQ is the goofy one.  Most of the

>>>> time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit.
The
>>>> other direction ranges from 16% to 100%.  Generally if I see it 
>>>> getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop.  It comes 
>>>> right back up, usually at about 50%.
>>>> I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with
about
>>>> the same results from all.
>>>> I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies.  The
higher
>>>> frequencies work better, but still not well.
>>>> All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced.
>>>> Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me

>>>> totally stumped.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Owner
>>>> NewWays Networking, LLC
>>>> Wireless Networking
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>>>>
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