They need to learn the situation because NOT being standards compliant open up a lot of ugly doors that you may be *made* to walk though :-).
The folks on the committee have spent far too much time with the FBI to take this lightly at all. marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Caleaquestions] VoIP CALEA Question > Agreed. > > Plus I think most people on this thread didn't even understand the > situation. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 3/1/2012 10:43 AM, J.C. Utter wrote: >> I agree with your first sentence, Marlon, but your second comment seems >> unclear because everyone hands off traffic. >> >> The main difference between 3rd party and in-house VoIP is that you have >> a different set of rules to follow for CALEA compliance specifically for >> voice service providers that includes the requirement to provide call >> records to the LEA (called number, start call, end call, call duration, >> etc.). There are other differences, but this is the main difference. The >> WISPA CALEA Standard does not apply to VoIP intercepts when VoIP is >> hosted in-house. The IPNA standard is specifically for Network Access >> providers (the "NA" in IPNA) and not for Voice Service Providers. >> >> We should have a standard for wireless VoIP providers, because a lot of >> WISPs offer VoIP today compared to the time when we started writing the >> first WISPA CALEA standard. >> >> jc >> >> >> On 3/1/2012 11:20 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: >>> You can only record what hits your network. >>> >>> If it's handed off to someone else they'll have to record it. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Matt Hoppes"<mhop...@indigowireless.com> >>> To:<fai...@snappydsl.net>; "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question >>> >>> >>>> I'm obviously not asking the question properly. >>>> >>>> I know how to do a CALEA capture for regular IP traffic. My question >>>> is >>>> related to VoIP traffic in particular. >>>> >>>> (e.g. Yes, if a customer has Vonage I obviously can't record the >>>> call... >>>> but I can capture the packets). >>>> >>>> However, my understanding was always that if you provided VoIP from >>>> your >>>> network you had to be able to record both legs of the call so that the >>>> LEA can determine, for example, which side of the call a noise was >>>> heard >>>> on. >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt Hoppes >>>> Director of Information Technology >>>> Indigo Wireless >>>> +1 (570) 723-7312 >>>> >>>> On 3/1/12 9:38 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>>>> Do a google search on "Mikrotik CALEA", take a look at The Mikrotik >>>>> WIki as well as Butch's CALEA (MUM 2007) presentation. >>>>> This will give you an excellent idea on how to accomplish what you are >>>>> asking for . >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet& Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, Fl 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/1/2012 7:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>>> We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement >>>>>> our >>>>>> GSM offerings in certain situations. >>>>>> >>>>>> A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA >>>>>> compliant and be able to record calls. >>>>>> >>>>>> ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass >>>>>> through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch >>>>>> sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite >>>>>> happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 >>>>>> switch) >>>>>> >>>>>> How am I suppose to be able to record that call? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Caleaquestions mailing list >>> caleaquesti...@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
