As it was explained on the list a few days ago by Stephen Coran, the CAF rules do not include a definition or Facilities Based. If you use the definition as listed in the Form 477 instructions, most WISPs would qualify as facilities based.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Randy Cosby <[email protected]> wrote: > "Facilities Based" excludes all fixed wireless, is that correct? > > Would VoIP - properly reported, taxed, etc. - qualify as voice? > > Randy > > On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: >> Right. >> >> And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed. >> >> We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service >> then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market. >> >> Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities >> based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off >> to the USF/CAF recipient. >> >> We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2 >> out full count and Casey is at bat. >> >> Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by? >> >> marlon >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fred Goldstein" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF >> >> >>> At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote: >>>> Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to >>>> wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl? They >>>> should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to >>>> work? >>> In fact, that *was* the rule. Or at least they had to wholesale the >>> DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS. When the FCC detariffed >>> DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the >>> subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF. >>> >>> The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they >>> allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information >>> service, and still get subsidized. That's how they want to "improve" >>> broadband availability. Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were >>> active in getting that passed? ;-) >>> >>> -- >>> Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com >>> ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ >>> +1 617 795 2701 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- > Randy Cosby | InfoWest, Inc | www.infowest.com > Vice President | 435-674-0165 x 2010 | facebook.com/infowest > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
