(this is not a reply to Brad, just couldn't find the head of the thread
on this one)
It was more than just the capacitor issue with MT, there were the noisy
532s which would interfere with two way radios as well at roughly the
same time, there is the version crapshoot whenever a new release is
made. I usually have to troll through the forums to find the concensus
on what firmware to be running for wireless and what firmware to be
running for wired.
This is not to say that UBNT doesn't have issues, still fresh in
everyone's mind is the toughcable debaucle, and it seems that new
firmwares do have issues from time to time. But it seems, to me at
least, that UBNT is more than willing to own up to their mistakes, take
their lumps and do the right thing with in reason. Their return policy
is pretty liberal and I can only imagine how much they've spent shipping
new toughcable. I know it doesn't cover the cost of installation, but
it is a far cry from the response we received from smartbridge or
highgain and their products.
I have to admit I've never tried to RMA a routerboard, but I never got
the impression I would have much luck. MT rarely acknowledges bugs or
defects in their product and has actively removed threads in their forum
about legitimate bugs.
But the thing that gets me is how much people bitch about QA on a $70
radio or a $500 core router and then in the same message bitch about
slow releases and cry for new cutting edge features. If you want to run
tested and true routers or radios then get Cambium, Alvarion, Cisco or
Juniper. Too spendy? Not enough new features? Wonder why?
There is a cost for cheaper cost and faster release cycles. Is it
frustrating, hell yes, but I accepted that frustration when I decided to
go with their products. I can only imagine what sort of regression
testing has to occur on each new feature that goes in routeros and
wireless can be set up in so many different ways and with so many
different environmental variables that trying to account for all
conditions and configurations would be a daunting task.
On 01/09/2013 07:44 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
Agreed. A carpenter once told me that some tools require more skill
than other tools to use properly and get the desired results. This
isn't meant as a jab towards anyone, but I feel is an honest truth. I
know there are several tools in my bag that I wish I was more skilled
with...MikroTik included.
The RouterBoard capacitor issue was a pain, but I believe they
determined it was a counterfeiting issue and not a design problem.
They received a large batch of capacitors that were not up to the
specifications they should have been. As compared to many wireless
operators here we don't deploy a bunch of these boards, so I can
appreciate the heartache some must be going through as these boards
with bad capacitors fail slowly over time.
BTW, I think if you look at the board you can visually tell if it has
counterfeit capacitors or not. Pretty sure the green colored caps are
the bad ones and the brown ones are good.
Best,
Brad
*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
*On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:16 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
All I can say is that we have been running MK sinsce 2.x, some quirks
along the way. But we are happy with it, No way we could have grown
our company to this level on Cisco or Juniper since we rely heavy on
VPLS and Mikrotik has allowed us to use it economically
Gino A. Villarini
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:06 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Cc:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
Each has their place....and MT has no place anywhere until they can
prove that they can write reliable firmware and offer friendly support.
MikroTik - Latvian for ..... Oh I can't go there.
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:15, Blair Davis <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'd like to know as well.
We have been using MT since 2.3.
Been using UBNT since the SR2 came out..
Each has their place.
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On 1/8/2013 10:35 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'm not bitter, I just don't see their advantage. You can't
honestly expect support to exceed that of Mikrotik. Features
are better in Mikrotik. Price doesn't have a huge gap between
them.
Not exactly sure how you've had them running for months when
they haven't even started shipping. Unless you got a beta
unit or something, which is probably not the same product that
you'd buy from a distributor.
Simple question: What does the Ubiquiti router have over my
Mikrotik? Now what's the answer...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Matt Hoppes
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Wow, josh. Why are you so bitter towards these things? Many
of us have had them in heavy production without issue for months.
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 8, 2013, at 21:05, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Build a Win ME machine. Put it on some batteries in the
corner. Get your 9 mo uptime.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
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On Jan 8, 2013 8:56 PM, "Mike Hammett"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Do you have anything to base that on?
I have both MT and UBNT devices that have been up without
missing a beat since they last had firmware upgraded 9+
months ago.
Now I know UBNT will have big shoes to fill if they plan
on unseating Mikrotik, but give them a couple years and I
think they'll be alright. I likely won't use the first
generation in production.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be
less reliable than Mikrotik (which is really really bad)
and not be as good software wise. Where does this device fit?
Their ad suggests it is to replace a Cisco. Ya right.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mike Hammett <
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:
That's an awfully bold statement. How come?
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From: "Christian Palecek" < [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> >
To: "WISPA General List" < [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:30:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless smartphone
Jon Auer < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders placed back when
it was announced.
>Mine hasn't arrived yet :-(
>On Jan 8, 2013 12:57 PM, "Steve Barnes" <
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>
>> That's the new UBNT Edge Router line. I was not aware
that they have
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