Extreme bad luck - or perhaps not - are all the radios perhaps from a
faulty batch? Vandalism - Is there any sort of access control or
surveillance at the site? The first thoughts that spring to mind.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:40 PM, David Hannum <[email protected]> wrote:

> Never tried that before.  We always use LPU's on the CAT-5 but I've never
> put one on the antenna lead.  What kind of line loss does it cause?  I
> don't see that in the Tech Specs.  Also, does it come with a male antenna
> connector side?
>
> Dave Hannum
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Can you possibly put a polyphaser on the 9000APC? I use these:****
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>> http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=531462&eventPage=1
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>> Kurt Fankhauser****
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>> Wavelinc Communications****
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>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>> Behalf Of *David Hannum
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:11 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC****
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>> The first radio went bad on the first antenna.  The second and third
>> radios have gone bad on the second antenna.  We'll probably swap the
>> antenna again this afternoon on this one.****
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>>  ****
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>> Dave Hannum****
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>> New Era Broadband****
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>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Jason Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> That's why I said antenna. It happened frequently after changing the
>> antenna.
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>> --- On *Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum <[email protected]>* wrote:****
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>> From: David Hannum <[email protected]>****
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC****
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>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>****
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>> Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 10:01 AM****
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>> Moisture is not an issue.  Good drip loops on both the antenna cable and
>> CAT-5 Cables.  We actually sealed the entry of the radio with mastic to be
>> sure.  The first radio lasted about 10 months.  When it went, we first
>> swapped antennas, thinking maybe a lightning strike damaged it (we've had
>> the same effect on signal from bad antenna).  That did nothing to help, so
>> we next swapped the radio.  Signal back.  That lasted about four weeks.
>> Swapped radio again, and signal back.  Lasted about 12 hours this time.**
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>> No visible damage to any of the radios.  No moisture found inside.  We
>> don't have capability to test in-house.  Will send to SWG or Wireless Units
>> to have them take a look.****
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>>  ****
>>
>> Dave Hannum****
>>
>> New Era Broadband****
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>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Fred Goldstein 
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> On 6/13/2013 7:43 AM, David Hannum wrote:
>> > We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange.  Here is the
>> > situation.  We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a
>> > few homes around it.  So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP
>> > on the tower, both on Omni's.  The antennas are on a stand almost
>> > exactly 4' apart.  There are six subs on the 900MHz radio.  About a
>> > month ago, I had an issue where (after about 9 months) the signal to all
>> > of the customers just faded out, to the point that only two subs were
>> > still good.  I swapped the antenna and that did not help.  I swapped the
>> > radio, and that fixed the problem.  Trouble is, it only lasted about
>> > three weeks, and the same thing happened again.  I swapped the radio
>> > again yesterday, and today, I'm back in the same boat.  The radio in the
>> > AP keeps going out.  I had the climbers check the grounding, and we
>> > actually ran a dedicated ground yesterday off the water tank.  My knee
>> > jerk feeling today is that maybe the radios are too close together, and
>> > the 2450 is burning up the 900.  Could this be the case?  Any ideas?
>> > Here is an example of what happens.  Customers that run signals -47 to
>> > -57 become -70 to -75 and those who's signals were -70 and up fall clear
>> > off.  Swap the radio, and everything goes back to normal.  This is now
>> > three radios that have gone, each lasting a much shorter time than the
>> > previous.  (this one did not make it 24 hours).
>> > I can't completely rule out lightning - the tower is in a very wooded
>> > area.  But usually you burn up the NIC in that case - not weaken the
>> radio.
>> > Thoughts?****
>>
>> Interesting mystery!  Clearly you don't want to blow more radios this way.
>>
>> Any more clues about what may have happened right before the failures?
>> I'm wondering about weather events.  Did it fail after a rain storm?
>> Water coming in to the radio or corroding the antenna connectors might
>> result.  And if the antenna's connector is flaky, re-attaching it to a
>> new radio might be a temporary fix, but reattaching it to an old radio
>> might "fix" it too (temporariy).  Have you examined the broken radios in
>> the shop?
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>> --
>>   Fred R. Goldstein              fred "at" interisle.net
>>   Interisle Consulting Group
>>   +1 617 795 2701****
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