It's called security through obscurity.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity
The problem is I don't think XP has quite reached that level as compared to 
VMS, Amiga, NextStep, et al...
Though SneakerNet, like you say is a different matter...  I'm sure there are 
still Kiosks, SCADA, and the like that are isolated and running XP, and will be 
for quite some time.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
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F: 610-429-3222

On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Blair Davis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Us too.  They are isolated from the internet, but we still have them doing 
> things.
> 
> --
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> On 10/17/2013 7:59 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> I still run Windows 2000 on some computers. :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 16:56, Blair Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> That was why I brought it up.
>>> 
>>> I don't believe we can force users off XP.  
>>> Obviously, proper port blocking helps.  Placing your XP users on source 
>>> NAT'ed IP's might help.
>>> 
>>> Are there other options?  Packet filtering?  Email filtering?  Something 
>>> else?
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2013 6:31 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
>>>> That is a good point, "is there anything we can do" to get users off XP? 
>>>> When these systems get infected (I would assume some savy hackers and 
>>>> spammers are gearing up for the end of XP patches), we will suffer too... 
>>>> in our networks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Greg Osborn <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> It works itself out……
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4eCd6xUSik
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 5:32 AM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Windows XP
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Well, it won't be working for long if they don't upgrade.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> From: "Blair Davis" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected], "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:09:39 PM
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Windows XP
>>>> 
>>>> Windows XP security updates end in April 2014.
>>>> 
>>>> Windows XP usage still above 30%.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there anything we, as ISP's, can do to protect our users who, for 
>>>> whatever reason have not, will not or can not upgrade?
>>>> 
>>>> I have users who won't spend $$ to replace a working system if they 
>>>> don't see a good reason to.
>>>> 
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