I'm a firm believer in never upgrading an OS. Clean install every time. Windows, Linux, sometimes Android (well, reset, not re-install).
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Goldstein" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:29:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Windows XP On 10/17/2013 10:08 PM, Clay Stewart wrote: Offer service to upgrade for $99... WIN7 plus labor? Remember, there is no upgrade from XP to Win7. It has to be a clean install, wiping out existing embedded software installation. (Now why embedded software even exists is a different story, but many costly applications work that way, because that's how MS tells them to do it, and MS Office is the worst example.) That's impractical for many users, so we happily stick with XP on our older machines. I think the security risk is overstated. Most of the patches are to very specific, obscure threats. The biggest threats nowadays are in email attachments, web pages, and other things that people click on by mistake. Those threats apply even to actively-patched systems. <blockquote> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Blair Davis < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> That was why I brought it up. I don't believe we can force users off XP. Obviously, proper port blocking helps. Placing your XP users on source NAT'ed IP's might help. Are there other options? Packet filtering? Email filtering? Something else? -- On 10/17/2013 6:31 PM, Clay Stewart wrote: <blockquote> That is a good point, "is there anything we can do" to get users off XP? When these systems get infected (I would assume some savy hackers and spammers are gearing up for the end of XP patches), we will suffer too... in our networks. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Greg Osborn < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> It works itself out…… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4eCd6xUSik From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 5:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Windows XP Well, it won't be working for long if they don't upgrade. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Blair Davis" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] , "WISPA General List" < [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:09:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] Windows XP Windows XP security updates end in April 2014. Windows XP usage still above 30%. Is there anything we, as ISP's, can do to protect our users who, for whatever reason have not, will not or can not upgrade? I have users who won't spend $$ to replace a working system if they don't see a good reason to. </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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