On 10/17/2013 10:08 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
Offer service to upgrade for $99... WIN7 plus labor?
Remember, there is no upgrade from XP to Win7. It has to be a clean
install, wiping out existing embedded software installation. (Now why
embedded software even exists is a different story, but many costly
applications work that way, because that's how MS tells them to do it,
and MS Office is the worst example.) That's impractical for many users,
so we happily stick with XP on our older machines.
I think the security risk is overstated. Most of the patches are to
very specific, obscure threats. The biggest threats nowadays are in
email attachments, web pages, and other things that people click on by
mistake. Those threats apply even to actively-patched systems.
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net
<mailto:the...@wmwisp.net>> wrote:
That was why I brought it up.
I don't believe we can force users off XP.
Obviously, proper port blocking helps. Placing your XP users on
source NAT'ed IP's might help.
Are there other options? Packet filtering? Email filtering?
Something else?
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On 10/17/2013 6:31 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
That is a good point, "is there anything we can do" to get users
off XP? When these systems get infected (I would assume some savy
hackers and spammers are gearing up for the end of XP patches),
we will suffer too... in our networks.
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Greg Osborn
<gregwosb...@gmail.com <mailto:gregwosb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It works itself out......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4eCd6xUSik
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Windows XP
Well, it won't be working for long if they don't upgrade.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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*Subject: *[WISPA] Windows XP
Windows XP security updates end in April 2014.
Windows XP usage still above 30%.
Is there anything we, as ISP's, can do to protect our users
who, for
whatever reason have not, will not or can not upgrade?
I have users who won't spend $$ to replace a working system
if they
don't see a good reason to.
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Interisle Consulting Group
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