In NYC (outer borough), I have a bunch of 24GHz SAF ~2.5 mile links doing very nicely. Very satisfied with their performance. All that, knowing that there's always the risk of unlicensed interference relative to licensed. Still holding nicely though, considering the wild weather we've been having. I also have not seen RF interference issues at all.
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Re: Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios (Daniel White) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 00:11:47 -0500 > From: Fred Goldstein <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On 1/7/2014 8:29 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > > > Its doable with the PTP650's, add 3' dishes for a nice rx gain > > > > I seem to recall a story several years ago, before Orthogon was bought > by Moto, about a link somewhere in Central America (Nicaragua or > Panama?) that used a pair of 5.8 GHz Orthogon radios, 6 foot dishes, and > went over 100 miles. Hilltops and a really big dish will do wonders. > Licensed 6 GHz radios, with their 6' dishes, are considered very > reliable out to 30 miles. An unlicensed link is not protected against > interference the same way but several of the 5.8 GHz options seem > plausible. > > But I wouldn't touch 24 GHz. It's ground zero for rain fade, so long > hops there are only useful on sunny days, best in the desert. ;-) The > adjacent 23 GHz licensed band has less rain fade, though, and is worth > considering, and it should be duck soup on 18 GHz, though again licensed > radios cost a bit more, especially the higher-powered or higher-speed > options. We're shooting a DragonWave 18 GHz hop about 8 miles across > Boston Hahbah and it's very solid, though extreme weather might cause > some dropouts. We didn't see any during this past week's snow, though > signals faded a few dB during yesterday's rain. > > > Gino A. Villarini > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > > > 787.273.4143 > > > > *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > *On Behalf Of *Christian Palecek > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:21 PM > > *To:* WISPA General List > > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios > > > > Seems like you are asking a lot of unlicensed, unless it is completely > > quiet in your area... > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Ian Framson > > Date:01/07/2014 6:10 PM (GMT-07:00) > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios > > > > Hi Wisps, > > > > We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 > > miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). > > We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to > > the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. > > > > The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps > > upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems > > to be the limiting factor at this point. > > > > Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 > > possibility. > > > > Your thoughts? > > > > Ian Framson > > Co-founder > > > > Trade Show Internet logo > > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com > > > > www.tradeshowinternet.com > > < > http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F > > > > > > [email protected] > > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com> > > (866) 385-1504 x701 > > (818) 590-7475 mobile/ > > /(415) 704-3153 fax > > > > Connect With UsLinkedIn > > < > http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fianframson > >Facebook > > < > http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternet > >Google > > Plus Page > > < > http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934 > >Twitter > > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wireless mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > -- > Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net > Interisle Consulting Group > +1 617 795 2701 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/private/wireless/attachments/20140108/5d1f2dda/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 05:54:14 +0000 > From: Daniel White <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios > To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ian, > > I assume for BridgeWave you meant their AR60 (or AR60X). The 60GHz > frequency band is not really designed to work past 1/3 of a mile. But for > your close in shots they are great radios for delivering GigE Full Duplex > (and it is an unlicensed band). > > Assuming your links are temporary... then 5GHz radios are your best bet. > Guaranteeing 200Mbps Full Duplex will be hard to do though without knowing > the noise floor in your area you will deploy (and of course... since the > band is unlicensed, someone can fire up a transmitter the next day that may > knock you off the air). > > 24GHz... even in the best of cases... is not a good solution at that > distance. 24GHz should be a 3 mile and under band... 5 miles best case. > > If they are permanent... 11GHz licensed radios would be the best way to > guarantee 200Mbps Full Duplex service. > > [cid:[email protected]] > > Daniel White | Sales Manager West & Southeast USA > SAF North America LLC > Cell: > > +1 (303) 746-3590 > > Skype: > > danieldwhite > > E-mail: > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Ian Framson > Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:10 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios > > Hi Wisps, > > We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles > (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are > looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time > constraints, although we're open to suggestions. > > The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps > upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. 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