the part 15 PTP 24Ghz band is only from 24000-24200Mhz (200Mhz of spectrum)
i would assume that the doppler radar for cars is in another slice of the
24Ghz spectrum.  as far as i know 24000-24200Mhz is for part 15 PTP only.

shouldn't be an issue.

2 cents

-sean



On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Fred Goldstein <[email protected]>wrote:

>  On 1/8/2014 9:35 AM, Jack Lehmann wrote:
>
> In NYC (outer borough), I have a bunch of 24GHz SAF ~2.5 mile links doing
> very nicely. Very satisfied with their performance. All that, knowing that
> there's always the risk of unlicensed interference relative to licensed.
> Still holding nicely though, considering the wild weather we've been
> having. I also have not seen RF interference issues at all.
>
>
> Just to clarify... I wouldn't touch 24 GHz *for an 11-mile link*.  But
> they're great for shorter links, like yours, especially in urban areas.
> And the narrow beams do limit interference. We do fine with 60 GHz too, for
> very short hops, like half a mile, though preferably with a 5 GHz backup or
> alternative path.
>
> I am a bit curious about vehicle radar, though.  I've seen it mentioned as
> operating in the 24 and 70 GHz bands. Only a few high-end cars have it now
> but it is likely to become more common.  Does anyone know how often it uses
> 24 GHz? This might eventually impact urban paths or those that go over
> highways.
>
>
>   Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 00:11:47 -0500
>> From: Fred Goldstein <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
>> To: [email protected]
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On 1/7/2014 8:29 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >
>> > Its doable with the PTP650's, add 3' dishes for a nice rx gain
>> >
>>
>> I seem to recall a story several years ago, before Orthogon was bought
>> by Moto, about a link somewhere in Central America (Nicaragua or
>> Panama?) that used a pair of 5.8 GHz Orthogon radios, 6 foot dishes, and
>> went over 100 miles.  Hilltops and a really big dish will do wonders.
>> Licensed 6 GHz radios, with their 6' dishes, are considered very
>> reliable out to 30 miles.  An unlicensed link is not protected against
>> interference the same way but several of the 5.8 GHz options seem
>> plausible.
>>
>> But I wouldn't touch 24 GHz. It's ground zero for rain fade, so long
>> hops there are only useful on sunny days, best in the desert. ;-) The
>> adjacent 23 GHz licensed band has less rain fade, though, and is worth
>> considering, and it should be duck soup on 18 GHz, though again licensed
>> radios cost a bit more, especially the higher-powered or higher-speed
>> options. We're shooting a DragonWave 18 GHz hop about 8 miles across
>> Boston Hahbah and it's very solid, though extreme weather might cause
>> some dropouts.  We didn't see any during this past week's snow, though
>> signals faded a few dB during yesterday's rain.
>>
>> > Gino A. Villarini
>> >
>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >
>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> >
>> > 787.273.4143
>> >
>> > *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Christian Palecek
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:21 PM
>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
>> >
>> > Seems like you are asking a lot of unlicensed, unless it is completely
>> > quiet in your area...
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Original message --------
>> > From: Ian Framson
>> > Date:01/07/2014 6:10 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
>> >
>> > Hi Wisps,
>> >
>> > We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11
>> > miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises).
>> > We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to
>> > the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions.
>> >
>> > The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps
>> > upgrade license.  We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems
>> > to be the limiting factor at this point.
>> >
>> > Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1
>> > possibility.
>> >
>> > Your thoughts?
>> >
>>
>
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