Yes, this could be what happens. I prefer your version re the non-specific exclusivity; I think that'd be an excellent devolopment.
I'll be happy when we all know definitively. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:[email protected]]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Also only my opinion, but I believe: The licenses are 10 MHz wide, but unlicensed operations can do whatever they want regarding channel size (well, and device certification). An operator can only have three licenses in a given area (block, tract, I forget what). 50 MHz will remain for unlicensed operations. All channels are dynamically allocated by the SAS database (even licensed). Your license isn't for a specific 10 Mhz (3550 - 3560), but just 10 MHz anywhere in the space. I think that's about all that i would add or redirect from your post. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[Image removed by sender.]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[Image removed by sender.]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[Image removed by sender.]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> ________________________________ From: "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]> To: "paolo difrancesco" <[email protected]>, "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:27:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Paolo, As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is my understanding of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS MAY NOT BE WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated expectation. None have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well worth a consultation fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. I will offer some international perspective here as well for your benefit there in Italy. - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks (tricky) - Of this, 30-50% MAY be auctioned off, though "auction" process is likely not to follow traditional cumbersome process, but some low burden streamlined method - remaining 70% (7 10 MHz channels) will be open for free, opportunistic use - Of this, it seems FCC may limit any individual operator from acquiring more that 30% (3 channels) - "ownership" likely to be purchased in yearly blocks, up to 3 years max perhaps - HOWEVER...even if one "owns" some of this spectrum, others can use it IF the owners have not built in the spectrum. And then, once and if the owners DO build, the borg (as I call it) like Google or Spectrum Bridge who'll be dynamically managing base station channels (all connected to the cloud) will relocate the opportunistic user to open spectrum, returning back the exclusive spectrum to the owner now actively using it - this borg will have the government contract to manage the spectrum following a methodology akin to how TVWS works currently, though management may be more granular (if Google has its way, and I think more granularity is better, as it would open use more broadly) - potential power seems undetermined at this point, but may exceed current 3.65 for hyper rural areas, similar to the Canadian model (could be huge) - there will likely be a prioritization scheme whereby certain defined sets of users will granted use priority, meaning the borg moves other users away from their active channels, moving them to open channels I understand some of this sounds impossible, but that's because many of us don't yet understand what's meant by "dynamic" as it relates to machines talking to machines in real time. A reason I submit this all matters internationally is that U.S. adoption of this band for commercial use will help drive scale, further reducing cost globally and encouraging lots of device makers to build devices (what the LTE world calls "UEs" for the band -- a cell phone is a UE, as is a fixed wireless CPE). I fully expect things like IP cameras, traffic systems, parking meters, etc. to have embedded 3.5x LTE chipsets, not to mention gobs of traditional fixed wireless "UE" options. Over the years, I've been pretty spot on with my market predictions re fixed wireless -- which companies survive, which spectrum comes along, use uptake, etc. -- and in some cases I've played a literal direct role in enabling it (see my comments in this FCC transcript re advised rules for 3.65 band way back in 2002, 3 years before it was released http://transition.fcc.gov/sptf/files/0801fcc.pdf). I am hoping my streak continues. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G will that spectrum be licensed? > Those are good points Mike, and it explains one reason I'm so excited > over 3.550-3.650 MHz. I think the coming spectrum is a game changer > for many reasons, this among them. > > *Patrick Leary* > > ***M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:26 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > I know of eICIC. It's still increasing efficiency as you're now doing > this all in one channel everywhere vs. one channel per radio or a > couple channels per tower. > > That said, in unlicensed spectrum that is busy like 5 GHz or 2.4, > you're not going to use the same channel everywhere as it would be > impossible to do so due to external interferers. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Image removed by sender. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>Image removed > by sender. > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>Image > removed by sender. > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>Imag > e removed by sender. <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > *From: *"Patrick Leary" <[email protected]> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:22:36 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > It is beyond basic concepts like increased efficiency. LTE goes much > further. See my last post. > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:41 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > Why not allow both? > > I think every vendor is releasing equipment with better spectral > efficiency. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Image removed by sender. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>Image removed > by sender. > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>Image > removed by sender. > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>Imag > e removed by sender. <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > *From: *"daniel mullen" <[email protected]> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:36:58 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations > instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make > ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! > > > Daniel > > > Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote .. > > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > www.aeronetpr.com > > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "[email protected]" > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do > > >10x channel sizes! > > > > > >Daniel > > > > > >Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote .. > > >> > > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > > >> > > >> > > >> Gino A. 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