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From: "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: XML-RPC (was EMail Archive...)


> Hi Gauthier,
>
> You've got the right understanding. XML-RPC is a protocol for transporting
> information in a defined XML format. XML-RPC is just one way of achieving
> this. Others include SOAP, RSS and Weblogging.

So they have (for the first time) choose a comprehensive name: Remote
Procedure Call!

Sorry to ask more but you always push me in the unkown side so I want to
learn more...
Is there some available report on what distinguate all these solutions?
Does MS BigBro or any other BigNames are actually supporting any of theses
specific technology?
Does anyone currently use some of these technologies?

> I've been talking a lot about XML-RPC lately in my posts and it was a big
> part of my presentation at the Conference. It's simply a starting point
for
> introducing you to the potential of Web Services and Witango. Web Services
> is a big subject and Witango still has a little ways to go yet, but it is
> obtainable and a reality right now. Keep in mind Web Services is still in
> flux and standards are still changing and evolving - but so is Witango.
v5.0
> and v6.0 will compete in this arena in a many different ways.
>

After a first preview of your XMLRPC materials (I've to install a powerpoint
because there is many many method and your ppt will explain to me wh), you
seems to have implemented the XMLRPC protocol with our predilected langage
(Witango), if you don't plan to use it extensively, so you are totally
crazy, but I think that your done work will achieve a huge pedagogic task on
our Web-developer abilities, and is still incredibely usefull for those who
want to use the actual Witango platform as Web service provider, I'm sure
the WiSP will bring an incredible tool for these ones!

After a quick understanding I'm sure that Web Service is also a great way to
design dedicated services for extranet in conjunction with standard business
desktop application (is there any xml-rpc libs for vb?)

> For a quick list of services using XML-RPC, check this out:
> http://www.xmlrpc.com/directory/1568/services
>


> One of the most interesting services that supports XML-RPC is NewsIsFree (
> http://www.newsisfree.com ) which can deliver daily News content on just
> about every subject in the world right to your home page.
>

Google also have a XML-RPC gateway to the new API!

> I would like to start a Witango News Channel in RSS format that I'm sure
> some may find useful - to submit and publish things like lists of the
latest
> web-sites built in Witango and Witango Product development news. Once you
> subscribe to a service like this (and it can be hosted anywhere), then
your
> Applications can have instant content published by others.
>

I've already imagined a 'news module' to be available for all the Witango
communauty (where each one will translate the news in his native langage),
it have to be multi langage, and have some kind of news category

Does RSS is a XML news format?
If yes I can throw away my own format that I've just started to design with
my minimalist XML knowledge
were can I get the description of this format?
does it manage multiple language?

I will be glad to share thoughts about a such module with everyone who want
to develop it, and you surely have the knowledge for choosing the right
'standards' so we can develop a shared/worldwide Witango news module as a
WebService.
Is there any rules for a such module?

I think that news source (the news server) will be unique and each one who
want to participate (add/translate) will get an account on the news server.
Am I right?
maybe the news server will allow a so called XML-RPC connection to
add/translate the news, so the flux will be multidirectionnal

Does the update process is based on a schedule or it is triggered when a
news or translation is added on the source server?

> We could have also have a Channel for Witango Developers looking for work
or
> for companies hiring Witango talent.
>
> I registered www.witango.org in part for these reasons. When time permits,
> I'll let you know how the work is coming along.
>
> Keep in mind, Phil and Sophie and the all the people at WI can't do it all
> by themselves. If you want something and haven't seen it yet - why not
pitch
> in.

Yes the volontarism is surely our best way to demonstrate that Witango is
NOT a dead product, your exemple (conference intervention) show that it's
possible to achieve some of the most current tasks with the product as it
exist now.
The WI people have to focus on the core of the product while the communauty
enables to the newcommers to use Witango in the widest range of possibility,
with contribution like the one you did that have to be considered as an
'addon' to the product possibilities!

> On the subject of Marketing for example, someone at the Conference
> suggested a great idea of starting an Email campaign: Start writing your
> favorite Development Magazine and ask for articles on Witango - or even
> offer to write some yourself. If these people receive enough - they'll pay
> attention.

Asking for articles is totally doable, but writing one needs a good verve,
all is a question of audience ;)

Thanks to you to deeply follow the threads!

Gauthier

 
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