Amen Tom!! jose
on 1/10/03 10:34 AM, Tom Ferguson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I get these kind of questions from clients also... mostly from clients who > what me to understand how knowledgeable they are. Usually all they know are > a few buzzwords. > > I'm always puzzled why they are concerned about which tools I use, as long > as I accomplish their goals, especially when I'm hosting their site and they > don't have to worry about purchasing the Server component. > > Due to its domination of the marketplace, I usually tell people that Tango > (Witango) is like ColdFusion only better, and it'll save them money because > development time is cut drastically. I've never had anyone balk at that. > > Just my $.02 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Web Dude >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 9:27 AM >> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it >> >> >> Until Witango can get an appreciable market share, I will use >> "buzzwords" as best I can to land the client. Unfortunately, I get >> too many blank stares when I even mention the product. I have clients >> that I have had for 8 years that now know exactly what Witango is and >> does only because I educate them on it. I think the best way to >> educate a new market is to use Witango itself in their projects. Once >> the client is landed, the speed at which things can be accomplished >> makes the product sell itself. >> >> If you don't get the project, you don't use the product. If you don't >> use the product, nobody knows what it can do. Sad, I know, but true. >> >>> I agree with John but I say to customers I use and XML generating engine >>> call WiTango which writes its code in XML. This seems to give them a >>> buzzword they understand as well as a new word they have trouble >> saying to >>> chew on latter. >>> >>> Dan >>> -- >>> Dan Stein >>> Digital Software Solutions >>> 799 Evergreen Circle >>> Telford PA 18969 >>> Land: 215-799-0192 >>> Mobile: 610-256-2843 >>> Fax 413-410-9682 >>> FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> www.dss-db.com >>> >>> >>>> From: John McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:25:15 -0600 >>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it >>>> >>>> Dude, >>>> >>>> I believe the term they're all throwing around is "XML >> Execution Engine" >>>> >>>> Personally I think the term sucks. "ASCII Execution Engine" would be >>>> just as descriptive. These types of deceptive tactics will only slow >>>> the growth and popularity of Witango. People need to know what we're >>>> using, *and why* so they tell all their friends about it. >>>> >>>> I would never use that term, because I'd feel silly if it >> made it's way >>>> to someone who knows what they're talking about, someone who >> understands >>>> how proprietary Witango really is. The usage of XML in the saved file >>>> format is no more usefull than the fact that it's in ASCII. >> Especially >>>> when you consider the changes that With made to the license agreement. >>>> I can't find a copy of the agreement right now, but I'm pretty sure it >>>> states that you aren't allowed to use the XML generated by the dev >>>> studio for anything but running on the app server, or editing with the >>>> dev studio. Which makes using things like JT a violation of >> the license >>>> agreement. So, ASCII, Binary, XML, Hindu, It really doesn't matter >>>> what format the taf and tcf files are saved in. >>>> >>>> The only good thing about the file format is that you can >> open it up in >>>> notepad to fix a problem when the dev studio decides to corrupt it for >>>> you... I'd better check the license agreement about using that third >>>> party tool with the source code though. ;) >>>> >>>> /John >>>> >>>> P.S. I'm not trying to start any kind of flame war here... >> Those of you >>>> that met me at the developers conference already know how I feel about >>>> this issue. I already know I'm alone on this, and don't need to be >>>> reminded... >>>> >>>> >>>> Web Dude wrote: >>>> >>>>> I saw this somewhere on the list before but can't seem to >> find it now. >>>>> >>>>> I have a perspective client I have been trying to land for the last >>>>> month. It is looking good, but they are asking for a list of >>>>> development tools that will be used in the project. I am worried that >>>>> stating I use Witango, will give me the blank stare I have seen from >>>>> other perpective clients I have tried to woo. >>>>> >>>>> Someone on the list in the past came up with an excellent short >>>>> explanation of what Witango is or does using the word XML which is >>>>> definitely a buzzword these days. >>>>> >>>>> I need some good examples of what to tell this client so I can have a >>>>> good shot at the deal. Any ideas???? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >>>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body >> >> >> -- >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body -- Webologies 150 Robinette Drive Waynesville, NC 28786 828.627.1994 http://www.webologies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs" Boris Badenov ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
