ah yeah, good point. RealBasic sounds pretty neat, i hadnt heard of it before (:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and TCFs > I have investigated that, but I want my solution to be cross platform, > easy to deploy and Rapid. > > I have two RAD tools I use constantly, Witango and RealBasic. Although > RB may not always be as optimized as C, or C++, it is compiled, and a > huge speed improvement on intense processes, like the workday test > proved. The point was not the efficiency of the algorithm, but just a > test that could be duped on RB and witango and measured. > > I am building a method to communicate between Witango (any platform) > with a RealBasic app running on any platform to perform dataprocessing > methods, or any other type of method. > > My thought is this, most Witango programmers aren't going to touch C, > C++ or even JAVA. But any Witango developer could learn RB enough to > perform these types of dataprocessing methods. Especially if I provide > a easy to modify application to the community. > > I am speaking at the conference, and I am going to present my > solutions, along with others I have done, and I am also building a > plugin for RB that accesses the WISP API. Most witango developers won't > be able to write an app using the c++ api for wisp, but I will have a > way to do it in RB. > > I will have a test for the list in a day or two that should hopefully > illustrate my solution. > > Robert. > > On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 05:18 PM, Atrix Wolfe wrote: > > > Hi Robert, > > > > If you know some C++ or grab a book on it, you can make DLL's that can > > be > > called from witango. If you do it this way, you dont have the > > overhead of > > having to "hack" together a solution using TCP and HTTP, but still > > have the > > compiled speed. > > > > I was trying to do some of this a while back but for my particular > > case it > > turned out not to be as helpful as i hoped (i was basicly reinventing > > something that a database is more optimaly designed for). > > > > If your interested, i still have my partialy completed DLL code and all > > that...i could clean it up and send something to you that demonstrates > > the > > basics. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:23 AM > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and TCFs > > > > > >> That is one of the reasons I brought this up. I am in the process of > >> developing methods for doing this, but I wanted to stimulate > >> discusion, > >> and hopefully hear from Witango as to there plans for the future > >> before > >> I spend the time. > >> > >> I have a method I developed where witango could pass data to an app, > >> and the app passes back the results, using TCP as the protocol and > >> http > >> as the language. > >> > >> Robert. > >> > >> On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 11:06 AM, Sri Amudhanar wrote: > >> > >>> Can you use XMLRPC, or a network socket using C or Java and process > >>> critical code separately? > >>> Sri Amudhanar > >>> Maxys Corporation > >>> 703 729 0600 > >>> > >>> > >>> Robert Garcia wrote: > >>> > >>>> There are still ways of referencing objects dynamically, just not as > >>>> easily as in an interpreted language where tags are interpreted from > >>>> the inside out. > >>>> > >>>> I know I may be just dreaming here, but the current functionality of > >>>> the TCF is already there and working, I would just like the added > >>>> ability to compile it, and the compiler will make me have to apply > >>>> some stricter methods of writing the code, but that is a small price > >>>> to pay. > >>>> > >>>> Do you know where I can find recent documentation on the new bean > >>>> handler? I want to do some tests with beans, but there are many > >>>> types > >>>> and ways to write beans, and I want to conform to how Witango > >>>> handles > >>>> them. I have asked Witango, but have not heard back. They have no > >>>> excuse, it is not there indepence. ;-) > >>>> > >>>> Robert. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 09:35 AM, Ben Johansen wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Interesting, > >>>>> > >>>>> As a matter of fact I use stored procedures in my database for a > >>>>> lot > >>>>> of > >>>>> the big looping of 10s of thousands of records. But that is not > >>>>> portable > >>>>> and doesn't solve the issue of looping speed within Witango. > >>>>> > >>>>> I see now that dynamics within loops with compiler based languages > >>>>> have > >>>>> come a long way since I last tried. > >>>>> > >>>>> I just don't want to loose the capability of dynamically creating > >>>>> object > >>>>> references. > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a plus side, the continual speed increase on processors. > >>>>> When I > >>>>> run it on a Pentium 2 400Mhz server it takes a minute and a half > >>>>> :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >>>>> Authorized Witango Reseller > >>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >>>>> Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller > >>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:16 PM > >>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and TCFs > >>>>> > >>>>> I thought of that, so I made the instantiation a domain scope, then > >>>>> removed it for the subsequent times. I was surprised, it didn't not > >>>>> seem to have any effect. It must have only added a few > >>>>> milliseconds. > >>>>> Either way the TCF method was slightly slower or the same. > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree that no one is going to look at that many years, but it > >>>>> was a > >>>>> good example to use as a comparison. > >>>>> > >>>>> The reason I am so hot on this, is that I have several reports > >>>>> that I > >>>>> need to write, that require alot of looping and processing, and it > >>>>> just > >>>>> > >>>>> chokes the witango server, and I need to right them in RB. I think > >>>>> if > >>>>> we had the choice quick and easy compiled code, then this would be > >>>>> less > >>>>> > >>>>> of a problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> Robert. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 02:55 PM, Ben Johansen wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> No doubt the instantiation of the object is the add second or 2. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If I can find some time I might try server side javascript. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But realistically, I did it for 1 year which is about the max > >>>>>> period > >>>>>> someone would do, the TCF version on my 1.6gig P4 Laptop took a > >>>>> > >>>>> second. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Start 14:54:31 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> from 07/02/2003 to 07/02/2004 > >>>>>> Total Nbr Days 366 > >>>>>> Total Work Days 262 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> End 14:54:32 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >>>>>> Authorized Witango Reseller > >>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >>>>>> Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller > >>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:49 PM > >>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and TCFs > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have tested your new TAFs. The TAFs that don't call the TCF > >>>>>> method, > >>>>>> both run 14 to 15 seconds consistently. The TAF that calls the TCF > >>>>>> takes 15 to 16 seconds consistently. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Does anyone have any updated docs on developing beans for use in > >>>>>> Witango? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Robert. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 12:56 AM, Ben Johansen wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ok, so you are cleaning my clock :-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have changed the calcs into a TCF and also matched your logic. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Robert, Could you run the test against your server with the new > >>>>>>> "workdates3.taf" which calls "daycalc.tcf"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This will be a more accurate time run because it is using the > >>>>>>> seconds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> model > >>>>>>> you used in RB. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> also included is the seconds logic in just a taf "workdates2.taf" > >>>>>>> (no > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> tcf > >>>>>>> call) > >>>>>>> could you run this time test on your server > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >>>>>>> -Authorized WiTango Reseller > >>>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >>>>>>> -Authorized Alt-N Reseller > >>>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:03 PM > >>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and TCFs > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OK, I created an application in RealBasic, and compiled for all > >>>>>>> platforms. It can be downloaded here: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://public.bighead.net/workdaytest/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I also set up the workday taf on my test server and it can be run > >>>>>> > >>>>>> here: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://poh.bighead.net/workday/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> With the default values, spanning 46020 days my witango v5.1.058 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> server > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> running on Windows 2000 server, AMD proc. running at 1.5ghz, with > >>>>>>> 512megs ram, and a 266FSB, it should take 15 seconds. If it takes > >>>>>>> longer, it is because a couple of you are hitting it at once. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now If I run my RB app on the same machine, it takes about 1/3 > >>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>> second if I do not give a progress indication, and about a second > >>>>>>> if > >>>>>> > >>>>> I > >>>>> > >>>>>>> do. That is even more of a performance increase than I expected. > >>>>>>> On > >>>>>> > >>>>> my > >>>>> > >>>>>>> mac, the results are about the same, except the progress calc > >>>>>>> takes > >>>>>>> just over 2 seconds. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Also, I am running my calc within its own thread. If I were to > >>>>>>> not > >>>>>>> thread the process, and disable background tasks, I could > >>>>>>> probably > >>>>>>> squeeze out another 10% performance. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Here is my code from the RB method, you can download the rb > >>>>>>> project > >>>>>>> from the link above: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sub calcWDays() > >>>>>>> dim sDate,eDate,iDate as date > >>>>>>> dim nDays,wDays,sTicks,eTicks as double > >>>>>>> dim i as integer > >>>>>>> dim s as string > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> sTicks = ticks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> sDate = new date > >>>>>>> eDate = new date > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> sDate.year = sDateDC.year > >>>>>>> sDate.month = sDateDC.month > >>>>>>> sDate.day = sDateDC.day > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> eDate.year = eDateDC.year > >>>>>>> eDate.month = eDateDC.month > >>>>>>> eDate.day = eDateDC.day > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> nDays = (eDate.totalSeconds - sDate.totalSeconds)/86400 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wDays = 0 > >>>>>>> iDate = new date > >>>>>>> iDate = sDate > >>>>>>> for i = 1 to nDays > >>>>>>> s = str(iDate.DayOfWeek) > >>>>>>> if iDate.dayofweek > 1 and iDate.dayofweek < 7 then > >>>>>>> wDays = wDays + 1 > >>>>>>> end if > >>>>>>> iDate.TotalSeconds = iDate.TotalSeconds + 86400 > >>>>>>> next > >>>>>>> eTicks = ticks > >>>>>>> s = "The total number of dates between "+sDate.abbreviatedDate+" > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> "+eDate.abbreviatedDate+" is "+str(nDays)+". " > >>>>>>> s = s + "The number of workdays in between is "+str(wDays)+" and > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> time taken to calculate was "+str((eTicks-sTicks)/60)+" seconds." > >>>>>>> msgBox s > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> End Sub > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I tried to make the RB method as Identical to the one in Ben's > >>>>>>> taf > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>> possible as you can see. sDateDC and eDateDC are the date control > >>>>>>> objects that the user interacts with. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Robert. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 06:09 PM, Ben Johansen wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cool > >>>>>>>> and while you at it make the week day taf into a tcf and create > >>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>> > >>>>> new > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> custom > >>>>>>>> tag called <@DATEDIFFWK> > >>>>>>>> LOL!. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >>>>>>>> -Authorized WiTango Reseller > >>>>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >>>>>>>> -Authorized Alt-N Reseller > >>>>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:05 PM > >>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and TCFs > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Actually, you could instantiate one field, then build an array > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> fields to the nth, building an array of field objects, and then > >>>>>>>> loop > >>>>>>>> through them referencing like so: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for x = 1 to 10000000 > >>>>>>>> field(x) = "some value" > >>>>>>>> next x > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I just downloaded your weekday taf, I will do a test with it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Robert. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 04:51 PM, Ben Johansen wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, when all factors are know the compiled code is quick. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In your example you have 10 and it looks nice an simple. > >>>>>>>>> Now multiply it by 10 and then maintain it. :-P > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Take the example I just sent with workdates.taf > >>>>>>>>> write a case statement for all possible dates. Aaaaaah. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The number of times that I had a loop that I know all the > >>>>>>>>> factors I > >>>>>>>>> could probably count on my hands and ok I will take off my > >>>>>>>>> shoes > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> also > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ;-) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The nature of a loop is dynamics, placing the case within the > >>>>>>>>> loop > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> is > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> me not intuitive but is required for a compiler. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am just going by experience and IMHO I will take dynamics > >>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>> compiled. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >>>>>>>>> Authorized Witango Reseller > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller > >>>>>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:37 PM > >>>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and > >>>>>>>>> TCFs > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There really is no increase in code. I do this all the time in > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> single > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> conditional statement like: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> for x = 1 to 10 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> select case x > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> case 1 > >>>>>>>>> field_1 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 2 > >>>>>>>>> field_2 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 3 > >>>>>>>>> field_3 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 4 > >>>>>>>>> field_4 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 5 > >>>>>>>>> field_5 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 6 > >>>>>>>>> field_6 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 7 > >>>>>>>>> field_7 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 8 > >>>>>>>>> field_8 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 9 > >>>>>>>>> field_9 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> case 10 > >>>>>>>>> field_10 = "some value" > >>>>>>>>> next x > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There are other ways also, this is the simplest. Another way is > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> build an array of objects, and loop through them. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think you underestimate the level of performance gain you get > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> when > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> you compile versus interpret on the fly on complex tasks. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> Especially > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> processing loops. I will do a test and get back to this with > >>>>>>>>> some > >>>>>>>>> results. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Robert. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 02:32 PM, Ben Johansen wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> You are correct, and this is where I question the speed boost. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On one hand you have the quicker run speed but on the other > >>>>>>>>>> hand > > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> you > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> have the increased amount of code due to lose of this dynamic. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There is no easy conversion of code and mindset between them. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >>>>>>>>>> Authorized Witango Reseller > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >>>>>>>>>> Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:20 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and > >>>>>>>>>> TCFs > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> dynamic referencing a table is one thing, that should be ok. > >>>>>>>>>> What > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> mean is referencing an object dynamically like you can do with > >>>>>>>>>> javascript/flash with the eval() function. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> For instance, in javascript/flash, if you have a set of > >>>>>>>>>> fields, > >>>>>>>>>> named > >>>>>>>>>> field_1, and field_2, and so on to field_10, they could be > >>>>>>>>>> referenced > >>>>>>>>>> dynamically like so: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> for x = 1 to 10 > >>>>>>>>>> eval("field_"+str(x)) = "some value" > >>>>>>>>>> next x > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The same could be done in witango with a bunch of arguments, > >>>>>>>>>> <@arg > >>>>>>>>>> field_1>, and so on. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <@for start=1 stop=10 step=1> > >>>>>>>>>> <@addrows local$newArray <@arg field_<@currow>>> > >>>>>>>>>> </@for> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I don't believe this could be done in a compiled language. You > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> would > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> have to use a select case method or build an array of objects > >>>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>> something. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Robert. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 01:47 PM, Atrix Wolfe wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> you could still do dynamic referencing if they made > >>>>>>>>>>> allowances > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> for > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> it, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>>> if they stored a table w/ the names of the vars and pointers > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> them. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If you can make java bytecodes though and then use gcc to > >>>>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> into an > >>>>>>>>>>> executable or dynamic library, would you really need With to > >>>>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> witango > >>>>>>>>>>> compiler? That is assuming you dont lose anything like > >>>>>>>>>>> dynamic > >>>>>>>>>>> referencing > >>>>>>>>>>> in either of those 2 steps. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I've been kind of wondering about this since With said you > >>>>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> tango > >>>>>>>>>>> into java bytecodes though...if you made your code into java > >>>>>>>>>>> bytecodes, does > >>>>>>>>>>> it support dynamic referencing TCF's, includes etc? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering if could expect any and all code to work the > >>>>>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>>> whether it > >>>>>>>>>>> was tango or java bytecodes. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Robert Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:25 PM > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Boosting Server Performance, and > >>>>>>>>>>> TCFs > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Just because our tafs would be compiled in some native > >>>>>>>>>>>> format, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> doesn't > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mean we would have to start worrying about things garbage > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> collection. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The compiled tcf would would have in/out points and process > >>>>>>>>>>>> data > >>>>>>>>>>>> within. It would run within the memory space of the witango > >>>>>>>>>>>> server, > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> the server would handle the garbage collection and the nasty > >>>>>>>>>>>> stuff. > >>>>>>>>>>>> The > >>>>>>>>>>>> main benefit would be that complex methods in a tcf would > >>>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>> scripted, but compiled so that there would be no tag > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> other performance drags that are inherant with an > >>>>>>>>>>>> interpreted > >>>>>>>>>>>> language. > >>>>>>>>>>>> It would mean, though, that certain things you can do in a > >>>>>>>>>>>> tml > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> or > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> taf, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> you could not do, like dynamic referencing. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But it does add several layers of complexity too. I'm not > >>>>>>>>>>>>> an > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expert > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>> level by any means, but it seams to me that Witango isn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ready > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> support > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this kind of low-level environment (nor any interpreted > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> language > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>> matter, e.g., ColdFusion). > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, garbage collection and other memory allocation > >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sort of Metatags would we need for this? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Garcia > >>>>>>>>>>>> President - BigHead Technology > >>>>>>>>>>>> CTO - eventpix.com > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2781 N Carlmont Pl > >>>>>>>>>>>> Simi Valley, Ca 93065 > >>>>>>>>>>>> ph: 805.522.8577 - cell: 805.501.1390 > >>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 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http://eventpix.com/ - > >>>>>>>>> http://theradmac.com/ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> __________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> _ > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> __________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> _ > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Robert Garcia > >>>>>>>> President - BigHead Technology > >>>>>>>> CTO - eventpix.com > >>>>>>>> 2781 N Carlmont Pl > >>>>>>>> Simi Valley, Ca 93065 > >>>>>>>> ph: 805.522.8577 - cell: 805.501.1390 > >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ - > >>>>>>>> http://theradmac.com/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> __________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> __________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Robert Garcia > >>>>>>> President - BigHead Technology > >>>>>>> CTO - eventpix.com > >>>>>>> 2781 N Carlmont Pl > >>>>>>> Simi Valley, Ca 93065 > >>>>>>> ph: 805.522.8577 - cell: 805.501.1390 > >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ - > >>>>>>> http://theradmac.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> > >>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> > >>>>>>> _ > >>>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to > >>>>>>> http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf<WorkDates2.zip> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Robert Garcia > >>>>>> President - BigHead Technology > >>>>>> CTO - eventpix.com > >>>>>> 2781 N Carlmont Pl > >>>>>> Simi Valley, Ca 93065 > >>>>>> ph: 805.522.8577 - cell: 805.501.1390 > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ - http://theradmac.com/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> > >>>>>> _ > >>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> > >>>>>> _ > >>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Robert Garcia > >>>>> President - BigHead Technology > >>>>> CTO - eventpix.com > >>>>> 2781 N Carlmont Pl > >>>>> Simi Valley, Ca 93065 > >>>>> ph: 805.522.8577 - cell: 805.501.1390 > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ - http://theradmac.com/ > >>>>> > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> __ _ > >>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>> > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> __ > >>>>> __ _ > >>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _____________________________________________________________________ > >>> __ > >>> _ > >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Robert Garcia > >> President - BigHead Technology > >> CTO - eventpix.com > >> 2781 N Carlmont Pl > >> Simi Valley, Ca 93065 > >> ph: 805.522.8577 - cell: 805.501.1390 > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ - http://theradmac.com/ > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> __ > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > > > > -- > > Robert Garcia > President - BigHead Technology > CTO - eventpix.com > 2781 N Carlmont Pl > Simi Valley, Ca 93065 > ph: 805.522.8577 - cell: 805.501.1390 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ - http://theradmac.com/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf
