Jason, I don't see the urgency to have it there before server ships. I have every reason to believe it will be there when server ships.
It is however important to keep in mind that the Mac market for FileMaker is primarily in the k-12 space and outside that space most everyone is using Windows. FileMaker is 50% of my business so I have seen the shift over the years. I think what the engineers are looking at right now is how to allocate resources. They need to hear from people that JDBC is important to the Mac community so they can justify the resources. As a early tester for them and a FSA member I have made my opinion know and have said loudly that they need to make this work with release of server. I will also get on the FSA list when I get back from training and push the list members to take the same position. I encourage everyone else who cares about this issue to write to FileMaker about it. I am confident in the end we will see at least JDBC. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Jason Pamental [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: FileMker 7 Dan, Good points certainly, but I'm with Roland about the ODBC (or at least JDBC, as ODBC never worked very well before, but JDBC did) issue. I'm impressed with the features, but Filemaker has historically been so entrenched in the Mac market to have them ship a product without a feature they touted so strongly in the last release seems to be a huge step backward. It's just too insular a stance to take with their software - there are too many reasons to make sure it's there; Witango connectivity is only one. There are a lot of other reasons that external applications would need/want to connect with FMP, and without that available I think it will really hurt adoption of this version and retention of current customers. Just my 2 cents... Jason On Mar 10, 2004, at 4:25 AM, Dan Stein wrote: > I have to disagree. > > As a DB solution it is in a stronger place than ever. Both on Mac and > PC > side > Look at the list of new features. > > As a Web publishing solution its Instant Web Publishing is very strong > now > and for many FileMaker users it is more than adequate. > > As a WAN solution the new server architecture puts it many steps ahead > of > its competition. It now outperforms terminal server even in low > bandwidth > situations. > > As a RAD tool for in house solutions is or commercial solutions I can > now > develop in 1/4 the time it took me to do things in the past. > > It supports ODBC and JDBC on the Windows side which as we all know is > well > over 90 percent of the world. > > There is a 3rd party plug in that supports ODBC and JDBC on the Mac > side and > has for years. This allows the ODBC JDBC route for data exchange. > > It is already the largest selling database solution on either platform > and > far outsells Access. > > That all said it is annoying that it does not provide parity on Mac and > windows for the server. But then again we are talking about FMS 7 > which is > still at least 6 months away. There is a push to have this support > added and > I would expect that it will make it into the final product. > > Yes it is true that you will never be able to take a single copy as in > the > past and run a client as a data source for Witango. But I would argue > that > that was never a good solution in the 1st place. I want a > multi-threaded > service like FMS 7 to be my data source and for me as a connection to > Witango it has been dead for years. > > FMS7 will offer the possibility to connecting to it as a backend and > in some > cases may offer an advantage, especially when the same server is > running the > in house data. > > There are so many new cool things about 7 that the idea of building a > browsed based front end to it in most cases is not going to make sense > of be > cost effective. > > On the other hand because it is possible to architect a database now > that > looks very much like a SQL schema it will be possible to interact with > a FM7 > solution via a Witango solution. > > I would guess that the Mac ODBC, JDBC connectivity will be there this > summer > on release. But on the off chance it is not I don't see it really > hurting > the product. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Filemaker 7 > > then FMP is history. > It was already, but this drives a stake through its heart > > On Mar 9, 2004, at 5:33 PM, Dan Stein wrote: > >> "We are committed to implement technologies cross platform when >> possible and >> intend to provide full support for ODBC/JDBC on the Mac as soon as >> possible >> but can't provide dates at this stage," said FileMaker spokesman Kevin >> Mallon. > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > -- ____________________________________________________________________ Jason Pamental, President [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bathysphere Digital Media Services, Inc. http://bathyspheredms.com ____________________________________________________________________ Tel: 401.490.6830 Fax: 401.490.6831 ________________________________________ A North American Distributor for Witango (http://www.witango.us) Rapid Web Application Development - XML Execution Engine ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
