Thank you Steve,

I appreciate your words. 

Actually I've wanted to do this for years, but the demand just wasn't there, 
considering I have in the past spent most of my time building intranet-style 
business applications. I have yet to encounter a large corporation that uses 
Mac workstations.

But now I'm working on a very large public-facing system that happens to have a 
fair contingent of Mac users.

For the past couple years I regularly test with Mozilla-based browsers i.e., 
Firefox, which I understand renders consistently on Mac as it does on Windows. 

It's that d*** Safari that's the problem ;-)

   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
> 
> Well as long as you are testing with Mac OS which of course 
> was the original point of this thread. I'm sure the other Mac 
> users would agree, we absolutely hate those Windows 
> developers that are so narrow minded as to only test with the 
> latest and greatest and expect everyone else to spend as much 
> time keeping things up-to-date.
> 
> I hope that many more Windows developers take your approach 
> and treat the other platforms with respect.
> 
> As a Mac user...
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> Steve Smith
> 
> Oakbridge Information Solutions
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> 
> On 27-May-06, at 6:13 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
> 
> 
>       Hi Stephen,
> 
>       I used to think the same thing about Virtual Machines, 
> but I've been using VMWare now nearly everyday for over 3 
> years now - and I've never encountered a visual or function 
> difference in how a Virtual Machine performs over real hardware.
> 
>       There is a slight performance decrease of course, when 
> compared to the host Operating System, and full-motion video 
> will struggle a little, but it's no less different than 
> running on a real machine with slightly lower hardware specs 
> than the host machine.
> 
>       I even spent two years doing a huge development project 
> with Visual Studio, SQL Server 2000 and Crystal Report where 
> the whole works was hosted inside a Windows 2000 Advanced 
> Server running as a Virtual Machine. Never had a problem.
> 
>       I can boot all versions of Windows, and a wide matrix 
> of browsers for testing. I even have Ubuntu Linux running for 
> testing some real crap browsers.
> 
>       And as I type, I happen to be installing Windows Vista 
> Beta2 - on the same machine.
> 
>       Ain't software fun?
> 
> 
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>               Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:28 PM
>               To: [email protected]
>               Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
> 
>               I'm not sure what form of testing you are 
> hoping for but if 
>               is to test an application that will eventually 
> be viewed on a 
>               Mac, then using any form of VM is not the way 
> to go. I don't 
>               trust VM for true testing of an end user's experience.
> 
>               Also look into the cost of OS X on it's own vs. 
> the cost of a 
>               Mini. According to the Apple Canada web site:
> 
> 
>               Mac Mini $699 in the base configuration which 
> includes OS X
>               Mac OS X $149 for single user
> 
>               $550 might seem like a lot but I believe that 
> it will be well 
>               worth the investment. Especially if you run 
> Boot Camp on it 
>               which will allow it to run as an extra Windows machine.
> 
>               Just my 2 cents (which hey, is almost worth 2 
> cents US!!!)
> 
>               Steve Smith
> 
>               Oakbridge Information Solutions
>               Oakville Office:         (416) 628-0793
>               Cambridge Office:   (519) 489-0142
>               Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Web: www.oakbridge.ca <http://www.oakbridge.ca/> 
> 
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> <http://www.oakbridge.ca/daylite.tml>  
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> 
>               On 26-May-06, at 9:27 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
> 
> 
>               For those of you in the know,
> 
>               I am considering an attempt to install Mac OS X as a 
>               VMWare virtual machine, as a test environment 
> for my apps 
>               with Safari and other Mac-based browsers. There 
> are several 
>               unofficial instructions on how to do this, with 
> a bit of searching.
> 
>               My question is: Does the latest version of OS X 
>               automatically support Intel, or do I need a 
> special version?
> 
>               http://www.apple.com/macosx/
> 
>               When I click on the link to buy, the hardware 
>               requirements simply says "PowerPC G5, G4 or G3 
> processor".
> 
>               Any insight would be helpful, thanks.
> 
>               Scott Cadillac, 
>               Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>               http://scott.cadillac.bz 
> 
> 
> 
>               
>               
> 
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