-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
For the most part, just testing with firefox, as a windows
developer,
will help alot, but like all the other browsers, Safari has a few
things unique to it. Also, another option, but still not 100%, the
safari renderer is open source, it is based off of the KHTML engine,
and Apple does commit changes back to the project. Before I got the
mini for my first dev, and set one up for him, I had him run Fedora
in a VM, and check the site with Konqueror. And it did catch most of
the issues that came up with safari, but not all.
As a mac user, I think we would all wish that every site was tested
with Safari, but at the very least being compatible with FF
is a step
in the right direction, cuz mac users are used to having to
use FF on
some sites. And to date, I have never seen an issue with something
working on FF win, and not FF mac.
This is why I mentioned in a previous thread, I have found that when
doing cross browser development, FF, is the best default browser to
test with, it is kinda "between" IE and Safari, or at least it feels
that way for me.
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Robert Garcia
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On May 29, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
Thank you Steve,
I appreciate your words.
Actually I've wanted to do this for years, but the demand just
wasn't there, considering I have in the past spent most of my time
building intranet-style business applications. I have yet to
encounter a large corporation that uses Mac workstations.
But now I'm working on a very large public-facing system that
happens to have a fair contingent of Mac users.
For the past couple years I regularly test with Mozilla-based
browsers i.e., Firefox, which I understand renders consistently on
Mac as it does on Windows.
It's that d*** Safari that's the problem ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
Well as long as you are testing with Mac OS which of course
was the original point of this thread. I'm sure the other Mac
users would agree, we absolutely hate those Windows
developers that are so narrow minded as to only test with the
latest and greatest and expect everyone else to spend as much
time keeping things up-to-date.
I hope that many more Windows developers take your approach
and treat the other platforms with respect.
As a Mac user...
Thank you!
Steve Smith
Oakbridge Information Solutions
Oakville Office: (416) 628-0793
Cambridge Office: (519) 489-0142
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On 27-May-06, at 6:13 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
Hi Stephen,
I used to think the same thing about Virtual Machines,
but I've been using VMWare now nearly everyday for over 3
years now - and I've never encountered a visual or function
difference in how a Virtual Machine performs over real hardware.
There is a slight performance decrease of course, when
compared to the host Operating System, and full-motion video
will struggle a little, but it's no less different than
running on a real machine with slightly lower hardware specs
than the host machine.
I even spent two years doing a huge development project
with Visual Studio, SQL Server 2000 and Crystal Report where
the whole works was hosted inside a Windows 2000 Advanced
Server running as a Virtual Machine. Never had a problem.
I can boot all versions of Windows, and a wide matrix
of browsers for testing. I even have Ubuntu Linux running for
testing some real crap browsers.
And as I type, I happen to be installing Windows Vista
Beta2 - on the same machine.
Ain't software fun?
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [OT] Mac OS question
I'm not sure what form of testing you are
hoping for but if
is to test an application that will eventually
be viewed on a
Mac, then using any form of VM is not the way
to go. I don't
trust VM for true testing of an end user's experience.
Also look into the cost of OS X on it's own vs.
the cost of a
Mini. According to the Apple Canada web site:
Mac Mini $699 in the base configuration which
includes OS X
Mac OS X $149 for single user
$550 might seem like a lot but I believe that
it will be well
worth the investment. Especially if you run
Boot Camp on it
which will allow it to run as an extra Windows machine.
Just my 2 cents (which hey, is almost worth 2
cents US!!!)
Steve Smith
Oakbridge Information Solutions
Oakville Office: (416) 628-0793
Cambridge Office: (519) 489-0142
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.oakbridge.ca <http://www.oakbridge.ca/>
Certified DayLite
<http://www.oakbridge.ca/daylite.tml>
Premier Partners
On 26-May-06, at 9:27 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
For those of you in the know,
I am considering an attempt to install Mac OS X as a
VMWare virtual machine, as a test environment
for my apps
with Safari and other Mac-based browsers. There
are several
unofficial instructions on how to do this, with
a bit of searching.
My question is: Does the latest version of OS X
automatically support Intel, or do I need a
special version?
http://www.apple.com/macosx/
When I click on the link to buy, the hardware
requirements simply says "PowerPC G5, G4 or G3
processor".
Any insight would be helpful, thanks.
Scott Cadillac,
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://scott.cadillac.bz
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